George16 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, firerain said: CO = Cheap Open So true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elguapo Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, firerain said: CO = Cheap Open So wrong and yet so right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malarky112 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 Cheap being relative to open I guess. With optic reliability to commit to this division you really need at least 3 sets of optics. One on the gun. One back up. And one out getting repaired. Realistically an extra slide with your backup dot mounted and sited is best option. Almost $1500 in “parts” there. Im just getting into CO myself and it’s not as easy as some believe. Or maybe I’m not that good. PS. Do people really care about overall finish? I just look at my division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 On 11/9/2019 at 9:27 PM, Malarky112 said: Cheap being relative to open I guess. With optic reliability to commit to this division you really need at least 3 sets of optics. One on the gun. One back up. And one out getting repaired. Realistically an extra slide with your backup dot mounted and sited is best option. Almost $1500 in “parts” there. Im just getting into CO myself and it’s not as easy as some believe. Or maybe I’m not that good. PS. Do people really care about overall finish? I just look at my division. It would seem to be that way at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lstange Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 And in August 2020, Carry Optics is the most popular division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JCN- Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) At the MN sectional, the high shooter was... CO. A junior prodigy who works very hard and has a super mature and level head. Over a top 5 National PCC competitor and previous Limited and Production national champions, though. CO style run and gun is really appealing for a lot of people newer to the sport and also people established in the sport. So many good things about the class. Edited August 31, 2020 by -JCN- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NETim Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 My old eyes are happy CO exists. It's not a crime to age, kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will77 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 35 minutes ago, NETim said: My old eyes are happy CO exists. It's not a crime to age, kids. Truth I'm getting out of limited major my eyesight got old trying out carry optics cant justify going open yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I watch the stats on PS for the matches I participate in and at least in area 5 it seems CO is booming, production is dwindling, limited and open are usually pretty even with open usually having more, PCC is also popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BentAero Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 At the Carolina Classic Level II, 10 days ago, there were 259 shooters. CO was the largest category with 71 shooters followed by Limited with 55, Open with 43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishbreath Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 Production is pretty much stone dead at the hands of CO here in western PA—barely more populated than Single Stack at the matches I attend, and a quick glance through Practiscore shows that it isn't much better at the Pittsburgh-area matches I don't usually make it to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regor Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 CO is the most subscribed division for the upcoming WA state championship, over 1/3 of the 157 competitors. Division Limited 26 Limited 10 1 Open 32 Production 7 Revolver 3 Single Stack 6 Carry Optics 55 Pcc 27 2019 match had more competitors (215), but fewer CO competitors: Limited - 50 L10 - 4 Open - 36 Production - 19 Revolver - 3 SS - 12 CO - 43 PCC - 48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Production isn't down to single stack levels here in western Ohio but it's getting close. I jumped off there to CO at the very end of 2019 and am never going back to iron sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Wow this is an old post brought back from the back catalog isn't it. Thats crazy seeing how much has changed in just a year. I remember when carry optics was nothing more than production with an optic added, and now its a whole division of its own right. I have to say its growth in popularity makes sense. In all honestly, I see it replacing Limited. What was a limited gun a decade ago, generally speaking, was a tricked out service gun of the era. Extended magazine, magwell, tuned trigger, etc. Now a modern era tricked out service gun has a slide mounted optic. So perspectively carry optics IS the new limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 I would probably dabble in CO if the optics held up. When people have three because of the logic you need one on the gun, one spare, and one to be in for service at any given time is a no go for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters11 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Don’t you shoot Open? I’d rather have 3 $500 optics than 3 $5-6k open guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 6 hours ago, jpeters11 said: Don’t you shoot Open? I’d rather have 3 $500 optics than 3 $5-6k open guns. I only have two Open guns. But I have never had a sight fail on either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 11:28 AM, lstange said: And in August 2020, Carry Optics is the most popular division. I’ve seen a boom in carry optics this year. Great data points. The downward trend makes me wonder about ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chutist Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 CO is just getting started. The reliability of the optics will get sorted out by the "market". I'm OLD, so I remember the START of optics in open. There was a whole cottage industry of "dot doctors" that repaired or tuned dots for reliability. Now is much better... CO brought me BACK to the sport. Open was just to expensive and too much hassle. Limited was ok. But for CO, I can buy ammo at the store and shoot a match. And... and this is the big one..... Carry Optics IS FUN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovevtac Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Thinking about shooting carry optics for fun. Looks like a lot of fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmmoHouse Posted September 29, 2020 Share Posted September 29, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 12:26 PM, NETim said: My old eyes are happy CO exists. It's not a crime to age, kids. YESSS....this is the way! Love CO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbarker13 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 At this point, it would be interesting to see if anyone can offer up a recent Level II or higher match where CO wasn't one of the top 2 divisions. Hell, even a decent-sized local match would be nice. Seems like Production is just dying out. And I wonder if raising the ammo limit to 15 could alter that a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71Commander Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 PCC is going to overtake them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 On 9/24/2020 at 10:57 PM, Sarge said: I would probably dabble in CO if the optics held up. When people have three because of the logic you need one on the gun, one spare, and one to be in for service at any given time is a no go for me. My first CO optic was a Trijicon RMR. I ran it for 10,400 rounds in matches and practice in a little under a year and with no backup optic anywhere. I bought a Trijicon SRO to replace it on my CO gun just because the SRO is much more user friendly with that big window and moved the RMR to my real carry pistol. The RMR is now at just over 10,500 trouble free rounds and the SRO has accumulated 1160 rounds fired in less than 6 weeks. If you want the surest bet, get a Trijicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, tbarker13 said: At this point, it would be interesting to see if anyone can offer up a recent Level II or higher match where CO wasn't one of the top 2 divisions. Hell, even a decent-sized local match would be nice. Seems like Production is just dying out. And I wonder if raising the ammo limit to 15 could alter that a bit. Production is dead in my area (western OH) and speaking for myself, upping the capacity to 15 rounds won't make me go back (that's where I started). You could set production and CO mag limits at 15 like IPSC and I still would not shoot production. You could even bring CO back to 10 rounds and I still would not change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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