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Not 100% sure that’s correct. There is no such thing as benefit of the doubt going to shooters. Especially in a major match. If an RO can not accurately determine the score it’s technically a reshoot. Bring the RM into the mix and tell him you have no idea which hits to count. He will probably look at it as well and call for a reshoot if he can’t tell either.

None. Other than the front half of the same rule we are discussing 10.2.1. Which says you get procedurals for faulting. So, if the start is standing completely outside shooting area you get dinged for shooting if you forget to step into shooting area. Of course there is the absurdity of DNROI ‘s decision last year regarding what constitutes being outside the shooting area. Remember? If WSB just says start outside shooting area you can have one foot in and one foot out. Now every WSB has to read like a legal disclaimer for an infomercial.

I think you guys are all off track on this. The rule you keep quoting clearly says ” after COMPLETELY LEAVING a shooting area.”. This is totally different than never being in a shooting area in the first place.

Agreed.

What’s normal? If it were a prone shooting stage I have seen people get down and elevate their feet without feet ever touching inside.

Not sure that rule applies to start positions. That rule was written to preclude shooters from jumping out of bounds and then just jumping in the air each time they fired shots. I think only the first half of the rule applies in this case: 10.2.1 A competitor who fires shots while any part of their body is touching the ground or while stepping on an object beyond a Shooting Box or a Fault Line, or who gains support or stability through contact with an object which is wholly beyond and not attached to a Shooting Box or Fault Line, will receive one procedural penalty for each occurrence.

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That seems odd. The gun going off is not your fault but it’s still your fault enough to zero you on a stage? Seems you should get a reshoot using such logic. BUT, for the record, I prefer the USPSA version of the rules in this case. A gun firing by itself is more unsafe than you firing it by accident. It makes no sense for it to be “OK” .

It CAN happen to anyone but it WON'T happen to everyone. I hear you though.

There are thousands of shooters who would probably argue that. Nothing says we are destined to DQ in our lifetime in competition. That being said, I could DQ tomorrow.

9.9.3 Moving scoring targets will always incur failure to shoot at and miss penalties if a competitor fails to activate the mechanism which initiates the target movement . This includes no-shoot targets that must be activated when in front of scoring targets to expose them, penalties are based on number of shots required for the scoring target (s) behind the no-shoot.

But the question is which one? There is a possibility that the hole in the moving no shoot could plausibly line up with multiple holes. A swinging no shoot is a poor target presentation for this reason. Exactly. Should be avoided at all costs.

Then I think you should keep in mind those RO's volunteer their time so you can shoot and scoot then go online and talk smack about them thinking they know the rules better than you. Chances are, all things considered, a certified RO that paid attention and tries to keep up with the changes probably does know more than you. But, RO's are rarely perfect, and on rare occasions they are even dipshits. Ask them to check the rules if you doubt what they are saying. Point them to the rule if needed.

Are you DNROI certified?