Rnlinebacker Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 42 minutes ago, hawaiifivebro said: The real question is how long until a version without the rail and an open variant comes out lol. I don't see them doing that as CZ owns Dan Wesson and they already have the Czechmate for open. I'm sure Czechmate would get ditched for DWX in open config but let's see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiifivebro Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 57 minutes ago, Rnlinebacker said: I don't see them doing that as CZ owns Dan Wesson and they already have the Czechmate for open. I'm sure Czechmate would get ditched for DWX in open config but let's see Seeing how they are directly competing with the TSO, I don't see why they wouldn't, especialy since it hasn't had a refresh in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Any pictures with it wearing a magwell ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Rnlinebacker said: I don't see them doing that as CZ owns Dan Wesson and they already have the Czechmate for open. I'm sure Czechmate would get ditched for DWX in open config but let's see I thought that was what Eric was going to do for CZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiifivebro Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, eerw said: I thought that was what Eric was going to do for CZ. Glad I didn't jump to open this year and was patient enough to see all of the new possibilities coming to fruition. Damn good time for the competition market right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 hours ago, hawaiifivebro said: Glad I didn't jump to open this year and was patient enough to see all of the new possibilities coming to fruition. Damn good time for the competition market right now. Don't build too many plans. In the end, everyone gets to 2011/1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJinPA Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Any updates on release date? Would love to see one in the wild and hear initial impressions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avastcosmicarena Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, MJinPA said: Any updates on release date? Would love to see one in the wild and hear initial impressions Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk SHOT Show is a week away. I'm sure they will give at least a vague estimate there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avastcosmicarena Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 15 hours ago, eerw said: I thought that was what Eric was going to do for CZ. Eric who? Where was this mentioned? Would love to see an open version of the DWX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 1 hour ago, avastcosmicarena said: Eric who? Where was this mentioned? Would love to see an open version of the DWX. Eric Grauffel. Best IPSC handgun shooter and multiple world champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiifivebro Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 8 hours ago, yigal said: Don't build too many plans. In the end, everyone gets to 2011/1911 I likely won't ever outshoot a czechmate/whatever CZ framed open variant comes out and just from my own personal preference don't see myself ever wanting anything other than that frame, I'm a big fan boy of how it feels in my hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sc68cal Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) The Elite Series of pistols that Dan Wesson made had a critical flaw - they used Caspian frames. The factory mags are Mec-Gar k9 tubes with modified followers (so they don't activate the slide-stop early) and honestly none of the ones I've had have been reliable. The MBX mags are good, but expensive, and also not made frequently, so you have to jump on them when MBX does a batch. The 45* mount that they use for the cmore on the Havok is also really dumb, I don't know what they were thinking with that, besides the fact that it might be cheaper to manufacture compared to a 90deg or standard mount - maybe. It's good that DW gave up on the Caspian frame. Too bad I was dumb and bought one before realizing the issues. Edited January 16, 2020 by sc68cal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 they make the elite in 45 ? be another mag to look for. for my pin gun prodgect. I too tried the modified Witness mag,, major fail, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fasthenk65 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Really like the concept. CZ reliability, 1911 trigger. What more can you want. Pls CZ bring it to Europe also!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest3Gunner Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 On 1/15/2020 at 4:03 PM, hawaiifivebro said: Seeing how they are directly competing with the TSO, I don't see why they wouldn't, especialy since it hasn't had a refresh in a while. IMHO, I don't think it's meant to go after the TSO, more of the gap left by the Edge, and with cheaper/ more reliable mags. Since CZ owns Dan Wesson, seems redundant to come out with a gun to compete against one's own company. Also excited for possible open gun. Getting antsy waiting for order to go through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rekkr Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I’m anxiously awaiting for my dealer to get mine in! Hoping this thing meets or exceeds my excitement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avastcosmicarena Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Midwest3Gunner said: IMHO, I don't think it's meant to go after the TSO, more of the gap left by the Edge, and with cheaper/ more reliable mags. Since CZ owns Dan Wesson, seems redundant to come out with a gun to compete against one's own company. Also excited for possible open gun. Getting antsy waiting for order to go through! It's the exact same style of gun as the TSO. Full size steel frame SAO gun in 9mm and 40, no comp or optic. Designed for limited. So, it's going up against both the TSO and 2011s intended for Limited division. The TSO and Czechmate are a little old/underperforming now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I see the DWX as a potential 'disrupter' to the limited division, provided the CZ./2011 combo has no achilles heel (unintended limitations) and the 9mm/.40 mag capacity is equal to what the CZ/2011 platforms currently offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiifivebro Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Between EG getting signed, Dan Wesson coming out with their own variants, CZC's AO1 now being offered in .40, I would be really surprised if their aren't a few workings in the making for a new line up/generation from CZ at some point in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 well i think its Industry day at the range today maybe we will see something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edison Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 8:42 PM, Midwest3Gunner said: IMHO, I don't think it's meant to go after the TSO, more of the gap left by the Edge, and with cheaper/ more reliable mags. Since CZ owns Dan Wesson, seems redundant to come out with a gun to compete against one's own company. Also excited for possible open gun. Getting antsy waiting for order to go through! Sometime it's better to cannibalize yourself with your own innovations. “One of Job's business rules was to never be afraid of cannibalizing yourself. " If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will," he said. So even though an Iphone might cannibalize sales of an IPod, or an IPad might cannibalize sales of a laptop, that did not deter him." -- Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midwest3Gunner Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 2 hours ago, edison said: Sometime it's better to cannibalize yourself with your own innovations. “One of Job's business rules was to never be afraid of cannibalizing yourself. " If you don't cannibalize yourself, someone else will," he said. So even though an Iphone might cannibalize sales of an IPod, or an IPad might cannibalize sales of a laptop, that did not deter him." -- Walter Isaacson, Steve Jobs That was a neat quote, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
See_Archie_Shoot Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 Looking forward to checking out the DWX this week at Shot Show. Didn’t make it to range day today Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker88 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 I'd like to see and actual side by side pic with a Shadow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajohnson15 Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 8 hours ago, 1911vm said: well i think its Industry day at the range today maybe we will see something Dont believe cz has done industry day at the range for the last 5 or 6 years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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