ghost21 Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Dose anyone here have any experience using the new Alliant sport pistol powder in 9mm or other calibers? Read up on it on their website, seems to be a good powder, Just wondering if anyone has used it yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bench Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 (edited) The only experience I've had with this powder is just trying to find some...gave up and sticking with Titegroup. Edited February 21, 2019 by Bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Some information here if you haven't already seem it: http://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/alliant-sport-pistol-powder/99181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Free Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bench said: The only experience I've had with this powder is just trying to find some...gave up and sticking with Titegroup. HAHA!!! Same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I load 9mm minor with it. It's a good powder, but there are actually quite a few good powders out there for 9mm minor if you have trouble getting a hold of this stuff. It's not as dense as Titegroup so takes more volume to get the load you want. Some people consider this a plus but Titegroup's density and small charge volume was never an issue with me.. It's not a straight weight for weight replacement either. It takes a little more. For 135 gr 9mm I load 3.4 gr Titegroup to get the PF I desire. With Sport Pistol I have to load 3.55 gr to achieve the same result. Sport Pistol has good case fill. It seems to burn cooler and maybe have a little less smoke and it's not quite as dirty. It meters very, very well and very consistently. Some claim it's a poor man's N320 but I can't compare because I've never used N320. I've been competing with 125 gr bullets lately and 3.85 gr of Sport Pistol give me plenty of PF and a very nice recoil impulse. It does have some temperature sensitivity but not as much as Titegroup. I've about used 4 lbs. of Sport Pistol since the fall and have 4 more lbs. coming. I'm liking it so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Ghost Search this website and you’ll find a lot of references to it. I recently purchased some and have been running it with ACME 147 FP and comparing to my normal Titegroup load. Right now the recoil and smoke seem the same and the cleanliness differences are still being judged. If it’s actually cleaner after a thousand rounds or so I’ll switch permanently to SP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funflyr Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Is it as accurate as Titegroup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, funflyr said: Is it as accurate as Titegroup? For me about the same. At the same PF, a 10-shot group of both powders via my Stock 2 @ 25-yds will render 2.5" to 3" groups, from a rest. Both powders are more accurate with a little velocity behind them. My 133-135 PF loads give the above mentioned grouping. Both powders show decreased accuracy when you try to squeak by at 127 PF or so. Both powders also get a better burn at the increased pressures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funflyr Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, BJB said: For me about the same. At the same PF, a 10-shot group of both powders via my Stock 2 @ 25-yds will render 2.5" to 3" groups, from a rest. Both powders are more accurate with a little velocity behind them. My 133-135 PF loads give the above mentioned grouping. Both powders show decreased accuracy when you try to squeak by at 127 PF or so. Both powders also get a better burn at the increased pressures. Thanks for the info. I have seen it on the shelves but didn't know much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyStickman Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 This should get you started - https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/258329-sport-pistol-powder/?tab=comments#comment-2782534 & https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/252179-alliant-sport-pistol-load-data/?tab=comments#comment-2806314 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bveto Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Bench said: The only experience I've had with this powder is just trying to find some...gave up and sticking with Titegroup. If your still looking for this powder check out Grafs, they have both the 1lb and 4lb in stock. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76146 https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76147 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I have 16 lb of Titegroup to use up in 9mm so I have not tried for Sport P for 9. I have gone to it exclusively for 40. It is a double base powder like TG but as advertised it produces far less smoke than TG and doesn't get the gun so hot. Meters well and costs half as much as N320. Believe me I would use N320 if I thought it better. Considering the money I spend shooting a little more for powder would never be the deciding factor. I just like it better than TG or N320. Im so tired of shooting into the morning sun with TG and making so much smoke that I can't see the targets. I like Sport P and will eventually switch completely to it. My local reloading supplier has been able to get it consistently at regular prices. Ive been through 12 lb and have 12 on the shelf now. Good stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blockader Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Here's a thread I started with some 9mm light load data for SP. https://forums.brianenos.com/topic/269957-9mm-sport-pistol-light-load-data/ I agree it has some temp sensitivity, but that's normal. I haven't had too much trouble getting it from Grafs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeti Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 Alliant's Sport Pistol feels very similar to N320 and is economical. So far I really like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJB Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 7 hours ago, bveto said: If your still looking for this powder check out Grafs, they have both the 1lb and 4lb in stock. https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76146 https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/76147 Yes, Grafs has had it more often than not lately. Right now Natchez has 1# & 4# too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dspring Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Have been using it for a few months. Meters well, and for me it has been way cleaner than TG. Smoke is somewhat less with coated bullets, a lot less with Xtreme plated. A great powder. Cheap and reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 a powder u cant find isnt reliable.. been looking,,, think I will go with 244 for next bulk order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollymon32 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 It’s back in stock. Seems very popular. Picked up an 8lb jug at Brownells for about $150 to my door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Just received my 8# jug of sp from brownell through fedex yesterday. $145 after the $10 discount and free shipping. They’re out of stock again. However, Graf still have the 1 and 4# bottle/jug available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ghost21 Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Thanks guys, Just the information, I wanted. Im using N340 in 9mm, 40 and 45. Just looking for a good powder to get out a little cheaper on powder cost and Sport P , seems like the way to go. Getting ready to order a 4 #er from Grafs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I just started dabbling with it now. I like it shoots like WST and a little cheaper. I'm stocking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodybag0 Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 I just started testing it in indoor range. To cold outside to crony. it looks promising. I used the same load data as N320. It feels pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 On 2/20/2019 at 7:03 PM, BJB said: For me about the same. At the same PF, a 10-shot group of both powders via my Stock 2 @ 25-yds will render 2.5" to 3" groups, from a rest. Both powders are more accurate with a little velocity behind them. My 133-135 PF loads give the above mentioned grouping. Both powders show decreased accuracy when you try to squeak by at 127 PF or so. Both powders also get a better burn at the increased pressures. For me it's not as accurate as Tightgroup, I bought 8# of sport pistol and will use it up but sticking with Tightgroup for 9mm, Plus I get 8# of tightgroup for $100 (cash) till my supplier runs out. Most accurate powder for me in 9mm is Power Pistol, and VV N340 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9146gt Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 N330 is one of the best powders I have found ...but charge seems to have a small window it likes...5.0 gr The faster you run Autocomp in minor loads the better and cleaner it gets. Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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