Anyone know where to find primers?

[AverageJoeShooting]

i also ordered 2k from armadillo. 

havent heard anything 

it said on the page shipping and hazard fee would be collected once they are in stock.....i hope its not crazy high

[UpYoursPal]

I ordered during the second week of March and shipping/hazmat has not been collected yet

[Rich406]

The part that bothers me about armadillo arms and the ginex primers is They’ve been taking pre orders for a few weeks now, but haven’t sold out.

 

they do seem like an established legit company though, has anyone actually spoken to someone there?

Edited April 5, 2021 by Rich406

[AverageJoeShooting]

10 hours ago, Rich406 said:

The part that bothers me about armadillo arms and the ginex primers is They’ve been taking pre orders for a few weeks now, but haven’t sold out.

 

they do seem like an established legit company though, has anyone actually spoken to someone there?

my question is how are they able to get primers (even from overseas) when no one else can

 

and yes you are right they have been taking preorders for a long while now and im sure that they have to be close to out of stock even when the new stock comes in

[UpYoursPal]

6 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said:

my question is how are they able to get primers (even from overseas) when no one else can

 

and yes you are right they have been taking preorders for a long while now and im sure that they have to be close to out of stock even when the new stock comes in

They are apparently importing from Canada

[AverageJoeShooting]

5 hours ago, UpYoursPal said:

They are apparently importing from Canada

how canada have all these primers?

 

I gotta figure the manufactures up there are also out

 

[frgood]

On 4/4/2021 at 12:56 PM, UpYoursPal said:

Nothing yet

[Edited] I  reached out to the wrong Armadillo Arms. Still searching. 

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by frgood

[jsoupene]

I was getting lucky at my local Academy for awhile. I would call them first thing in the morning to see if truck was coming in and they usually told me. I definitely struck out way more then I got but I was able to get some. They would only sell you 300 at a time though. Everyone was so worried about the ammo that most of the ppl waiting didn't mess with the primers.

[EEH]

At what price did they sell for ?  ( primers )

[AverageJoeShooting]

anyone hear from armadillo arms?

[quiller]

12 minutes ago, AverageJoeShooting said:

anyone hear from armadillo arms?

I found two FFL with that name! One in Shirley, MA and the other in Ferndale, WA. I'm assuming you are referring too the one in Ferndale as the one in Shirley (which is only a few miles from me) is a home based operation. Getting an FFL in MA in a residence is hard as state law says it needs to be zoned correctly. Speaking of primers, I got talking to a sales guy at the Berlin, MA Cabela's the other day and he said they get in a few boxes but all sell out immediately and typically by folks who are listing them for sale and doubling the price. He also said that many FFL's are going in and buying up all the ammo and reselling it. Both are very serious offences and rather disgusting if you ask me.

[davsco]

midwayusa has been dropping lotsa primers.  1k limit so they come to around $100 incl shipping & hazmat.  but they're out there if you want them.

[UpYoursPal]

2 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said:

anyone hear from armadillo arms?

I contacted them recently and they said that primers should be arriving in either July or August

[konkapot]

Anybody order from Trifusion Tactical? And if so have you received your primers yet?

[MikeBurgess]

6 hours ago, quiller said:

 He also said that many FFL's are going in and buying up all the ammo and reselling it. Both are very serious offences and rather disgusting if you ask me.

How is the free market system a serious offence? 

If Cabela's is selling stuff below market value people are going to take advantage of it and make some money, to the best of my knowledge this breaks no laws.

 

 

[Rich406]

7 hours ago, AverageJoeShooting said:

anyone hear from armadillo arms?

I was told a couple weeks ago that the permit was being held up, and now the earliest would be July, I was offered a full refund or to wait.

[ChuckS]

From the Powder Valley FB page: (I really like these guys  )

"

Powder Valley

PRIMERS!!!

OK, now that I have your attention I'd like to share two phone calls I have received this week. Both phone calls were from ammo manufacturers who have a "surplus" of primers. Now, before you go all ape s... on some of the big name folks out there I'll let you know these aren't the big name folks. But, these folks have obviously been resourceful and got their hands on some domestic and foreign primers. In the first case the OEM had 4 million primers he was willing to part with at the amazing price of $0.17 per primer. The second OEM was willing to part with all 2.4 million primers he had for a price of $0.20 per primer. Honestly, we could have probably purchased them all and sold them all and made a profit. So, you ask "Why didn't you?" This answer is two fold

(1) We would sell every dang one but at the same time be absolutely crucified by customers and the shooting community for "gouging".

(2) I believe in the American spirit of capitalism. I admire these folks for being resourceful and sourcing these primers and trying to make a buck. However, I don't agree with how it's happening. I won't be the source of their profiteering. I'd rather just sell the minimal primers we're getting from the manufacturers themselves and be able to charge what I believe is a fair price.

Now, don't get me wrong. If someone came to us at what we believe to be a fair price and I could keep the prices somewhat reasonable I'd do it in a heartbeat. But, not at those prices.

But, I do ask for you guys to keep this in mind when you're seeing what you believe to be outrageous prices. Just because the retailer is selling at a high price doesn't mean they are gouging. Everyone in the industry is scrounging to find inventory to be able to sell. Sometimes we find the inventory and take a risk by buying it at a higher price just so we have something available to sell.

Just wanted to throw out an example so you all can see what's going on. What you see is not always what is truly happening.

"

 

 

[MikeBurgess]

10 minutes ago, ChuckS said:

(1) We would sell every dang one but at the same time be absolutely crucified by customers and the shooting community for "gouging".

really this is the one that is stopping them. 

 

We have a problem in the shooting community where we scream freedom is good communisms and socialism are bad, then crucify anyone that tries to make a buck. I know many people with several years worth of primers that say the current prices are outrageous, but they wont sell their stocks when offered those outrageous prices because they don't know when they could get more, proving that the outrageous price is not actually above the value they place on their primers. 

 

Freedom is good period,  if you want primers today you can buy them today because the free market system works, they just cost more than when demand was lower.

[B_RAD]

I like PV for what they’re doing. I agree in the free market but I like that they won’t pay those prices and that is how you drive prices back down. 
 

If people would quit panic/hoarding and paying crazy high prices, primers would be available at more normal prices. 
 

PV!

[RJH]

My local gun store did the same thing.  One of his normal ammo suppliers offered him ammo at a huge markup that he new he could sell, but instead cut ties with the supplier.  So the supplier lost a retail customer forever 

[UpYoursPal]

I've been lucky with some very generous local sellers who sold me primers at just slightly above pre-panic prices.  At the same time, another seller here sold me a bunch of his 9mm major (as he was getting out of open), leaving me pretty well stocked. 

So what I've been doing recently has been selling primers to my shooting buddies at the price I paid for them from local sellers with the promise that they'll turn them into ammo and not resale.  Now, I have no way of verifying if they're doing that or not, but if it keeps them shooting and keeps their dollars away from the gougers, I think that's better for everyone.

[AverageJoeShooting]

the more people support price gouging the more people think its ok to sell at that price. it wont be long before prices dont come back down and that becomes the new price, just look at what happened with gas

 

PV is always my go to and this makes it more so

[36873687]

14 hours ago, B_RAD said:

I like PV for what they’re doing. I agree in the free market but I like that they won’t pay those prices and that is how you drive prices back down. 
 

If people would quit panic/hoarding and paying crazy high prices, primers would be available at more normal prices. 
 

PV!

They class act

[quiller]

22 hours ago, MikeBurgess said:

How is the free market system a serious offence? 

If Cabela's is selling stuff below market value people are going to take advantage of it and make some money, to the best of my knowledge this breaks no laws.

 

 

I guess I forgot the MA part. See the whole reg here but in short: Whoever not being licensed, as hereinbefore provided, sells ammunition within the commonwealth shall be punished by a fine of not less than five hundred nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than two years. I have absolutely no problem with free market, but buy all and jacking up the price is not fair...yes, I know fair has nothing to do with it....but! Now you can have an FFL and not an ammo sales license in MA and you can have both....I know as I started with an FFL and then got the ammo license....but gave up both a while back. Also, according to the Cabela's guy people are repacking ammo and re-selling. Again in MA, ammo much remain in the manufactured package from creation to use! Repacking is a big no no.....but this is MA and I need a permit to pee!!! 

Edited April 29, 2021 by quiller

[MikeBurgess]

16 minutes ago, quiller said:

I guess I forgot the MA part. See the whole reg here but in short: Whoever not being licensed, as hereinbefore provided, sells ammunition within the commonwealth shall be punished by a fine of not less than five hundred nor more than one thousand dollars or by imprisonment for not less than six months nor more than two years. I have absolutely no problem with free market, but buy all and jacking up the price is not fair...yes, I know fair has nothing to do with it....but! Now you can have an FFL and not an ammo sales license in MA and you can have both....I know as I started with an FFL and then got the ammo license....but gave up both a while back. Also, according to the Cabela's guy people are repacking ammo and re-selling. Again in MA, ammo much remain in the manufactured package from creation to use! Repacking is a big no no.....but this is MA and I need a permit to pee!!! 

so serious offence = violate dumb MA state regulations, Ok makes sense (the statement not the law).

 

Free market = Not Fair ?  

Honestly this is my problem I do not see anything not fair about it, you are free to do the same thing those you condemn are, but you choose not to, that's your choice. The fact that others are making that choice means that primers ARE available, just at a price point that matches the supply vs demand equation. I actually feel bad for how we as a comunity treat our retailers, Cabellas should be free to sell their primers at current market prices, but they don't because we will condemn them for "Price Gouging" so they sell sell them at a lower price point because they live in fear the public not actually thinking freedom is a good thing.