MrSparkle Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Dealers in Canada are now taking pre-orders for around $1350, with delivery estimated for late August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacobThomas Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) Places are taking preorders now with not knowing date or prices. In the US Edited April 11, 2016 by JacobThomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMaus Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 $100 says nobody outside Europe sees a production Shadow 2 in 2016 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huskerlrrp Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 $100 says nobody outside Europe sees a production Shadow 2 in 2016 . 100 Aussie Dollars or 100 USD? Either way, I'm afraid I'd lose too much. I'm interested in buying one, but I'm not going to get stupid over the hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I've been told that right now they have more orders than their automated production line can handle in about 1-1/2 years, and they'll be servicing their local customers before shipping over here. If true, we could be into late 2017 before they come over here. Anyway, it's still more about the shooter than the gun. (And as soon as I can get a CGW 10x bushing and a new set of custom grips on my SPO1and find the perfect load I'll be a GM within a week. Right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I'd love to get one, but this thread is starting to remind me of similar threads over the past couple of years. When I decided to start shooting again (as well as shoot competitively) I remember reading about certain pistols before making up my mind and reading about recently introduced pistols after I started shooting. I remember when the HK VP9 was introduced, the SIG P320 was introduced, and other pistols. Hype or hyperbole tends to obscure reason. It is human nature to hope the new arrow will make the Indian a better shooter (or in my case--I need a rationale reason to add another gun to my collection). Do the new improved features make it "that much better" than an SP01 Shadow? Perhaps for some people. Was that self-convincing enough to justify getting one?? Perhaps. But, if someone wins a major match with it--yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 "I'm interested in buying one, but I'm not going to get stupid over the hype. " Would be interesting to compare the hype we have seen with the release of every new competition pistol, this hype reminds me a lot of the XDm versus XD hype . (For me, the original XD geometry is better). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goshimu Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) People like new things, that's what it is, having said that the shadow 2 is a good thing, having shot it. Edited April 12, 2016 by goshimu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMaus Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) If I could buy a Shadow 2 now I probably would (assuming they are under AU$2000). However, in the last 2 years I have seen every CZ shipment delivery date 'scretched'. Delivery dates for other manufacturers are not any better. So instead I purchased a Shadow Australia (similar to the Canadian Shadow Mate except without that maple thingy). It came in the same shipment as the Shadow 2 samples. It has a nicer trigger and tighter feel than my Shadow duo tone. It will do me for the next year or two. . Edited April 12, 2016 by BMaus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 (edited) $100 says nobody outside Europe sees a production Shadow 2 in 2016 . I'll take that action. Edited April 12, 2016 by BeerBaron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I've been away from this thread and forgot if I asked already but is it ruled out that the gun is legal for uspsa production? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdd817 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-NROI-production-gunlist.php It's not on the list yet, but I'd imagine it will be once they've got 2000 units shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lior Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 Concomitant with our sport is the disease of frequently wishing to buy better guns. I'm a victim of this myself and have purchased a dozen in five years. The effect of hype in the marketing of guns cannot be downplayed. We buy guns because we enjoy buying guns, not just because we think that it will give us a sporting advantage. I am not surprised by the response to the marketing of the Shadow 2. The original Shadow is good and many of us recognized ways in which it could be improved. It is always nice and rewarding to get a gun that fits our hands well and is fun to shoot. Maybe this is an apples and oranges matter, but in the sport of 10 meter air pistol shooting, I have bought just one gun, a Walter LP400, half a decade ago, and don't feel the need to buy anything else. Not that there isn't room for further development in Olympic guns (there always will be), but because the sport is far more dependent on the skill of the shooter than the mod-cons on the gun. I shot an original Shadow for 3 years and thought it was a great gun, but now I shoot Standard Division because I enjoy it more than Production Division (a personal thing), so I'm less influenced by Shadow 2's advertising. For others, I understand the lure. Despite the advent of more exotic guns making it to the IPSC Production Division list, the division is still a more level playing field than others. The appeal of a seemingly better gun and the desire to own it is undeniably there, but let ammunition be your main investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nimitz Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 (edited) your statement in para 2 says it all: "... the sport is far more dependent on the skill of the shooter than the modcons on the gun". most shooters buy new equipment in the hopes of getting better ..... most shooters also never make it past "B" class .... I just continue to buy more ammo ..... Edited April 17, 2016 by Nimitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 I think I may buy a Shadow 2 because I want a second Shadow level gun. If it wasn't coming out, I'd probably pick up a second 91030. I may still do that when the Shadow 2 has everyone giving their "obsolete" guns away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemoe83 Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 So is the grip smaller than the original Shadow? What about the beavertail width? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goshimu Posted April 17, 2016 Share Posted April 17, 2016 So is the grip smaller than the original Shadow? What about the beavertail width? I'd say so, the grips are straight aluminum verse the rubber palm swell grips of the shadow. It does feel different, the frame chequering is a nice addition, however doesn't feel as pronounced as say a tanfog. In short they feel nice, but so did the shadow grips, just slightly different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashAndPoof Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Whats different about it?Looks like grips, hammer, undercuts everywhere, maybe slightly different slide serrations, checkering, mag release and probably a bunch of other subtle things I didn't notice while looking at the pic for 10 seconds. I like all the changes... but not so much on the Shadow 2 scroll on the slide. Meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 $100 says nobody outside Europe sees a production Shadow 2 in 2016 . keep that hunjie crispy! I've been told mine will be here in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slavex Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I will concur with the script choice not being my favorite, or the name even. I feel the same way with the Stock II script choice too. Whats different about it?Looks like grips, hammer, undercuts everywhere, maybe slightly different slide serrations, checkering, mag release and probably a bunch of other subtle things I didn't notice while looking at the pic for 10 seconds. I like all the changes... but not so much on the Shadow 2 scroll on the slide. Meh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviSS Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) I will concur with the script choice not being my favorite, or the name even. I feel the same way with the Stock II script choice too. I agree...looks cheezy. Edited April 21, 2016 by LeviSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tha1000 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 If the grip is even smaller than the one on the shadow, definite nope from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissionaryMike Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 For me, a slightly smaller grip will help w/ the DA, but would actually make the SA too close. I wish the disparity between the DA and SA on my accu wasn't so great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Wonder if their will be a demo at the CZ booth at the NRA annual ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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