IHAVEGAS Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 On 1/29/2018 at 2:51 AM, stick said: I've used titegroup for years. Small case volume, consistent metering from my Dillon XL650, inexpensive and readily available. What else do I need to say? A little bit of a necro post but same situation, I am typically slow to fix what is working. The one thing I am wondering about that might make switching more imminent is leading with coated bullets. Never been a problem in any of my guns with titegroup until I bought a 929 revolver, 929 leads up and is a real pain to clean. Anybody seen any difference with leading when switching from some faster powder to SP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) Anyone had an opportunity to compare it with Clean Shot or Winchester 244? Edited December 17, 2018 by Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Yes. I prefer sp to win244 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 SNS 125gr conical nose, 1.13" OAL 4.0gr = 1080 fps 135PF Very low SD and nice recoil impulse from my 5" 1911. Known slow barrel in that gun. Going to try 3.8gr to see what PF that gives me in the 1911 and CZs. Very consistent powder drops from the 650. Impressed I am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 (edited) Double tap. Will put 3.8gr results here I guess. Edited December 24, 2018 by IronicTwitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 3.8 sport pistol. Precision bullet 125 flat point coated. 1.100 oal. Win spp. Out of two shadow 2 I averaged a very consistent 1037 to 1050fps for 20 round strings. 1,100 feet above sea level. 65 degrees F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 (edited) SNS 125gr conical nose 1.13" OAL Win brass and WSP primers 4.0gr = 1080fps/135PF (1911 5") and 1100fps/138PF (CZ P09 4.5") 3.8gr = 1040fps/130PF (1911 5") and 1055fps/132PF (CZ P09 4.5") That DW PM-9 and its slow barrel... Edited December 26, 2018 by IronicTwitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted December 29, 2018 Share Posted December 29, 2018 Everglades 124 JHP V2 1.125 AOL 4.15gr SP 1080 fps 133PF Everglades 147RN plated & Xtreme 147RN HPCB 1.135 OAL 3.3gr SP 905 fps (Ev) & 908 fps (Xt) 133PF All 8 shot averages from a Shadow 2 in 45 degree weather using mixed brass and Fed spp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Is it available anywhere? PV and Grafs are out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Menamy Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, e-mishka said: Is it available anywhere? PV and Grafs are out Check brownells or midway. They usually have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mac_Menamy said: Check brownells or midway. They usually have it. all out. really wanna try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombywoof Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 30 minutes ago, e-mishka said: Is it available anywhere? PV and Grafs are out Grafs had one pounders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, zombywoof said: Grafs had one pounders thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 is it temp sensitive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Not in my experience. I saw about a 1 power factor change shooting it in cool weather at 5600+ feet vs 95+ degrees at 1,100 ft. That was with a 3.1gr charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 hours ago, e-mishka said: all out. really wanna try it. It is the newest bright and shiny thing, but I would not fret if you need to wait to find some. It is very unlikely to ever effect a match score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronicTwitch Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 I just shot an indoor match with SNS bullets I thought it was more smokey than SNS with WST. Going back tomorrow for a side by side comparison. Still a more consistent powder drop with low SDs. Maybe my expectations were too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, e-mishka said: is it temp sensitive? I got this from an article I found while researching SP. Jared Hinton, communications coordinator for Alliant Powder, describes Sport Pistol as "a low nitroglycerine, double-base flake propellant. On the burn rate chart, Sport Pistol would functionally replace/overlap with American Select. Temp sensitivity can change from application to application, but Sport Pistol is extremely stable with a slight negative slope. In our most comprehensive testing, it changed less than 15 fps, between 0 and 125 degrees Fahrenheit." Edited January 5, 2019 by NWfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-mishka Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Im getting a pound of it from my local shooting buddy to try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfGuns Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 (edited) On 7/6/2018 at 6:23 PM, ARMAGEDON said: Hey guys. I have a Tanfoglio Stock II. I was using Titegroup and i changed to Sport Pistol. I make my ammo at 1.130 AOL and i use SNS 135gr round nose coated bullets. I would love to be in a 130 power factor. Does anyone has a recipe? How much load do i need to use? Thanks A little late but here is what I got with Bayou Bullets 135 round nose to 1.130 with Sport Pistol and CCI 500. Temp was 66. Dan Wesson PM9 3.2 avg 904. SD 5.6 spread 17 PF about 122 3.4 avg 977 SD 7.7 Spread 19. PF about 132 3.6 avg. 1014 SD 7.3 Spread 17 PF about 136 Edited March 1, 2019 by GolfGuns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 Old thread but lots of good information, thanks! I just ordered 8, 1lb bottles of Sport Pistol from Powder Valley, it was slim pickings other places and didn’t find any 4 or 8lb jugs. I’m looking forward for this in 40, and 9 once I use up the CFE-P. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClayBuster Posted April 21, 2019 Share Posted April 21, 2019 (edited) Grafs has plenty, with cheaper shipping and hazmat. https://www.grafs.com/catalog/product/productId/76148 rebate form $2 per pound. https://promotions.vistaoutdoor.com/Content/images/promotions/VUFZ345PFUZU9M697KSW61RUJNHB7BV1.pdf Edited April 21, 2019 by ClayBuster Added rebate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 Thanks, I’ll check there next time. Luckily I had a discount code for PV. Thanks for for the reminder about the rebate though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I was trying to get 135pf with coated 160 grain bullets, and Titegroup, and bumped it to 134pf but I was getting tumbling. I called the bullet mfg and he suggested switching to Sport Pistol. I hit 134 pf on my first try, with Sport Pistol, and noticed they shot a lot softer, but, when I walked down to the target (25 yards) I saw that the bullets were still tumbling. I guess that's the reason nobody at Nationals were using 160s. I usually use VV310 for 147 grain bullets. I put together a load with Sport Pistol, went to the range and chronoed them side by side with my VV310 load. Both loads chronoed almost identical, but, I was really surprised that the Sport Pistol load was softer, and more accurate. Now, the accuracy COULD have been because I was using once-fired Winchester brass, with the Sport Pistol load, and R-P brass that was probably been fired 3 times, with the VV310 load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I found the 160's to have a very soft but slow recoil impulse. Good for a new shooter, but not for a fast shooter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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