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4 hours ago, dsa said:

Outstanding!  

 

 

Can't say it better than that. I use 3.1 grains for my 9mm load and I literally couldn't get it to throw less than perfect without messing with the meter. I love it. 

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How does it compare to E3?  Cleaner, or softer shooting?  I am looking to place a powder order soon and try to get 24 lbs per order. I can't stand having little jugs lying around partially used.

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13 hours ago, jschweg said:

Forgive me if this was answered already, but how well does this meter in the Dillon since it's an extruded powder?

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About through my first bottle, no issues!

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I got a bottle of SP and finally got a chance to run a load over the chrono.

 

3.0 grains SP, 160 grain SNS Casting .356 bullet, COL 1.145 (+/- .003), mixed shot-to-hell range brass

I shot this out of my new, super groovy Gen 5 G34

10 shots @60 degrees F

Avg: 878.9

ES: 25

SD: 7.0

PF: 140

 

I was looking for a PF of 130 or so for minor, so I need to crank this down to 2.9 and see what happens. This is a very small sample (I was really trying to get my optic dialed in for tomorrow and just threw up the chrono for fun), but this is softer than my 3.2 grain SP and 147 grain Blue Bullet load. However, both are clean and accurate, with an edge to the .356 bullet - five shots in a nickel sized group at 9-10 yards off-hand.

 

If I didn't have 15 lbs of e3 to use up, I'd be stocking up on SP! Nice for 9mm and although I didn't chrono it, 3.2 grains under a 160 .358 BBI coated bullet in .38 spl was nice, clean and accurate.

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5 hours ago, Brewski said:

I got a bottle of SP and finally got a chance to run a load over the chrono.

 

3.0 grains SP, 160 grain SNS Casting .356 bullet, COL 1.145 (+/- .003), mixed shot-to-hell range brass

I shot this out of my new, super groovy Gen 5 G34

10 shots @60 degrees F

Avg: 878.9

ES: 25

SD: 7.0

PF: 140

 

I was looking for a PF of 130 or so for minor, so I need to crank this down to 2.9 and see what happens. This is a very small sample (I was really trying to get my optic dialed in for tomorrow and just threw up the chrono for fun), but this is softer than my 3.2 grain SP and 147 grain Blue Bullet load. However, both are clean and accurate, with an edge to the .356 bullet - five shots in a nickel sized group at 9-10 yards off-hand.

 

If I didn't have 15 lbs of e3 to use up, I'd be stocking up on SP! Nice for 9mm and although I didn't chrono it, 3.2 grains under a 160 .358 BBI coated bullet in .38 spl was nice, clean and accurate.

hmmmmm... I've been using the Blue Bullet 147 (which is actually a 150+) but I've been curious about the heavier bullets. Might have to give the SNS Casting 160 a try.

If you don't mind: What were you loading prior to the SNS 160 and was there anything "interesting" about making the switch?

Thanks!

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  As difficult as this has been to find I just scored another jug  from the same lot as my previous jug. How is that for luck!

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Quick Sport Pistol data:

Glock 34
125gr BBI TC profile
54 degrees, overcast
Range pickup mixed brass

3.7gr Sport Pistol

1081 hi
994 lo
1047 average
87 es
25 sd

3.8gr

1095 hi
1054 lo
1065 average
41 es
12 sd

The 3.8 will be my new load. Very soft impulse, cooler, and notably more accurate than Titegroup.

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Thank you for that data and for not getting in a tizzy about a sd greater than 20.

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26 minutes ago, rowdyb said:

Thank you for that data and for not getting in a tizzy about a sd greater than 20.

 

At 21 SD, a small black hole opens up and promptly consumes your gun.

 

That’s why we care so much.

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28 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said:

 

At 21 SD, a small black hole opens up and promptly consumes your gun.

 

That’s why we care so much.

 

REALLY?! It's amazing any revolver still exists...

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@wtturn

 

Thanks for the data from your Glock 34.

 

What COL did you use for that truncated cone bullet?

 

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@wtturn
 
Thanks for the data from your Glock 34.
 
What COL did you use for that truncated cone bullet?
 
1.133 OAL

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15 hours ago, rowdyb said:

Thank you for that data and for not getting in a tizzy about a sd greater than 20.

Easy!

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16 hours ago, wtturn said:

Quick Sport Pistol data:

Glock 34
125gr BBI TC profile
54 degrees, overcast
Range pickup mixed brass

....

3.8gr

1095 hi
1054 lo
1065 average
41 es
12 sd

The 3.8 will be my new load. Very soft impulse, cooler, and notably more accurate than Titegroup.

 

Interesting that data is nearly the same for my E3 load with a 125, same OAL, and brass.

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@SCTaylor

 

Will you please tell us...

How many grains of E3?

Which 125 grain bullet and profile?

Which pistol?

Velocity?

 

Thank you, sir.

 

 

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[mention=63805]SCTaylor[/mention]

 

Will you please tell us...

How many grains of E3?

Which 125 grain bullet and profile?

Which pistol?

Velocity?

 

Thank you, sir.

 

 

 

Don’t want to derail this thread but...

 

3.7grn e3, 1.145, 125gr Blue Bullet TC, 1076fps avg - 134.4pf. Out of Stock 2’s.

 

 

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On 6/17/2017 at 10:05 AM, R1_Demon said:

I looked at the link provided above and went to Alliant's website for loading data in .40. They don't show a min or max. They only show one number. How do you know if that is a starting number with the powder or the max charge?  ???. Seems kind of stupid on their part.

I contacted alliant and they said the listed weight is max. To take 10% of so starting load.

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Correct.  Any time you see load data listed with just one charge weight, that's from Alliant or anyone else, that's the max load, and you deduct 10% for starting load.  

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I finally got a load worked up that I'm happy with. Its walking a fine line and I may be better off to bump it up, but for now I think its fine. Thoughts?

 

Created: 04/26/18 22:25
Description: 9mm production 
Notes 1: 1.155‚ OAL
Notes 2: 3.1g of ASP
Distance to Chrono(FT): 10.00
Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000
Bullet Weight(gr): 147.00
Temp: 60 °F
BP: 29.89 inHg
Altitude: 100.00
#          FPS  FT-LBS      PF
6    882      253.96  129.65  
5    877      251.09  128.92  
4    869      246.53  127.74  
3    879      252.24  129.21  
2    873      248.81  128.33  
1    882      253.96  129.65  
Average: 877.0 FPS
SD: 5.2 FPS
Min: 869 FPS
Max: 882 FPS
Spread: 13 FPS
Shot/sec: 0.7
True MV: 878 FPS
 

I did have 10 Shots but I may have been to quick on it and they had an error. I still think 6 is plenty to go off of, though. 

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I did have 10 Shots but I may have been to quick on it and they had an error. I still think 6 is plenty to go off of, though. 


Your load is almost identical to mine and your results are right in-line with what I recorded(I posted my full results earlier in the thread). Mine were a hair faster, but I’m also 5000+ feet higher so I probably get a little more burn.

If you’re worried about the chrono, you can always throw a heavy 3.1 or shift to 3.2. I doubt you’d feel the difference.

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4 hours ago, matteekay said:

 


Your load is almost identical to mine and your results are right in-line with what I recorded(I posted my full results earlier in the thread). Mine were a hair faster, but I’m also 5000+ feet higher so I probably get a little more burn.

If you’re worried about the chrono, you can always throw a heavy 3.1 or shift to 3.2. I doubt you’d feel the difference.

 

I may bump it up to 3.2. But with a standard deviation of 5.2 and a low of a 127 PF I think ill be just fine. 

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20 hours ago, Mac_Menamy said:

I may bump it up to 3.2. But with a standard deviation of 5.2 and a low of a 127 PF I think ill be just fine. 

 

Right on.

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Out of a Shadow 2. 147gr plated RMR rnfp bullet. Mixed range brass. Win spp. 1.100" oal. 3.30gr Sport Pistol. This gives me a very very consistent 131pf and consistent groups.

 

No bad smell or weird residue after shooting. Gun doesn't get branding iron hot after a lot of shooting. No goofiness at the press.

 

Only negative is the 8# jugs are big so they took up more space in my powder storage area.

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33 minutes ago, rowdyb said:

Out of a Shadow 2. 147gr plated RMR rnfp bullet. Mixed range brass. Win spp. 1.100" oal. 3.30gr Sport Pistol. This gives me a very very consistent 131pf and consistent groups.

 

No bad smell or weird residue after shooting. Gun doesn't get branding iron hot after a lot of shooting. No goofiness at the press.

 

Only negative is the 8# jugs are big so they took up more space in my powder storage area.

 

 

How's the accuracy compared to 124/125 bullets?

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43 minutes ago, vnboileau said:

 

 

How's the accuracy compared to 124/125 bullets?

I don't know. I haven't shot 124/5 grain bullets in 4 years.

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