Denato1 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/17/2019 at 7:04 PM, Darrell said: Do you have any accuracy data to go with what you tested? Does it shoot a 2" group or 6" group? that is important too. I did not bench test it but I am able to keep a 1.5" group at 20 yards freestyle with this load. I shot a USPSA match this weekend with it and had no issues. I will look the gun over tonight to see how dirty it is in 300 rounds compared to my older w231 load Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 (edited) Some load testing today, Accu-Shadow, Sport Pistol, 125TC Blue Bullets @ 1.110 Mixed Brass 3.5gn avg fps 971. SD 12 spread 40 PF 121 3.6 avg fps 1002 SD 10 Spread 37. PF 125 3.8 avg fps 1043 SD 9 Spread 26 PF 130 4.0 avg fps 1067 SD 8 Spread 29 PF 133 Accu-Shadow, E3, 125TC Blue Bullets @ 1.120 Mixed Brass 3.6 avg fps 1042 SD 15 Spread 49 PF 130 Edited June 2, 2019 by CZ85Combat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmeehan19 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 All shot out of a Canik TP9SFX. Worth noting the .356 were far more accurate than the .355. The gun seemed pretty dirty after 350 rds. Also really noticeable smoke. The brass had a good smoke streak down the side on about 1/4 of the exterior sidewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwbsig Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bmeehan19 said: All shot out of a Canik TP9SFX. Worth noting the .356 were far more accurate than the .355. The gun seemed pretty dirty after 350 rds. Also really noticeable smoke. The brass had a good smoke streak down the side on about 1/4 of the exterior sidewall. I’ve had very similar results, I started shooting 3.2 grs and things start to clean up a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmeehan19 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Thank you. Ill give that a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Here’s the data I have for Sport Pistol Acme 124gr Round Nose length 1.125 federal primers CZ SP01 and Tac Sport 3.8gr SP01 Velocity - 1015 Power Factor - 125.86 3.8gr Tac Sport Velocity - 1050 Power Factor - 130.20 3.9gr SP01 Velocity - 1038 Power Factor - 128.71 3.9gr Tac Sport Velocity - 1065 Power Factor - 132.06 4.0gr SP01 Velocity - 1044 Power Factor - 129.46 4.0gr Tac Sport Velocity - 1078 Power Factor - 133.67 I’m going to try some BB 135tc bullets in the next few weeks and will post those results when I do. Edited June 11, 2019 by mveto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffybadbad Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Here's some load data, but it seems pretty far off base from what's been posted here before... any ideas on why the delta? I fired 10 shots each string, indoors, 11' away. Shadow 2 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.8gr V = 1096 PF = 136 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.6gr V = 1055 PF = 131 147gr Brazos RN coated 3.2gr V = 957 PF = 141 115gr JHP 4.2gr V = 1196 PF = 137 JP GMR15 14.5" 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.8gr V = 1236 PF = 153 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.6gr V = 1200 PF = 149 147gr Brazos RN coated 3.2gr V = 1027 PF = 151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 4 hours ago, fluffybadbad said: Here's some load data, but it seems pretty far off base from what's been posted here before... any ideas on why the delta? I fired 10 shots each string, indoors, 11' away. Shadow 2 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.8gr V = 1096 PF = 136 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.6gr V = 1055 PF = 131 147gr Brazos RN coated 3.2gr V = 957 PF = 141 115gr JHP 4.2gr V = 1196 PF = 137 JP GMR15 14.5" 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.8gr V = 1236 PF = 153 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.6gr V = 1200 PF = 149 147gr Brazos RN coated 3.2gr V = 1027 PF = 151 Did you maybe have them loaded really short? That would explain higher velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffybadbad Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 1 hour ago, RH45 said: Did you maybe have them loaded really short? That would explain higher velocity I don't think it was that. OAL = 1.125" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 I run 3.3 grains of Sport Pistol, behind SNS 147 grain flat points @1.142”, for bigger matches because I want plenty of cushion at the chronograph, but, I know that my velocities weren’t as high as yours. I chronoed both Sig Xfives, and M&P Pro, with Apex, gunsmith fit barrel. All 3 are 5”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking4reloadingdeals Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 17 hours ago, fluffybadbad said: Here's some load data, but it seems pretty far off base from what's been posted here before... any ideas on why the delta? I fired 10 shots each string, indoors, 11' away. Shadow 2 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.8gr V = 1096 PF = 136 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.6gr V = 1055 PF = 131 147gr Brazos RN coated 3.2gr V = 957 PF = 141 115gr JHP 4.2gr V = 1196 PF = 137 JP GMR15 14.5" 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.8gr V = 1236 PF = 153 124gr Brazos RN coated 3.6gr V = 1200 PF = 149 147gr Brazos RN coated 3.2gr V = 1027 PF = 151 What is your OAL for these rounds? I’m about to order a tester of Brazos bullets and haven’t used plated bullets before so I’m not sure where to start. My usual OAL for Berry’s 124 plated is 1.13-1.14”. also, how do you like those bullets so far? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffybadbad Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 14 minutes ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: What is your OAL for these rounds? I’m about to order a tester of Brazos bullets and haven’t used plated bullets before so I’m not sure where to start. My usual OAL for Berry’s 124 plated is 1.13-1.14”. also, how do you like those bullets so far? OAL was 1.125" on all of them. Bullets are great. Very consistent weight and size. I'm getting some really crazy leading in my comp, but maybe I shouldn't be running them in my PCC. I'm just getting much higher velocities across the board than others have reported in similar guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
looking4reloadingdeals Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 OAL was 1.125" on all of them. Bullets are great. Very consistent weight and size. I'm getting some really crazy leading in my comp, but maybe I shouldn't be running them in my PCC. I'm just getting much higher velocities across the board than others have reported in similar guns. Are you getting leading In your barrel though, or just your comp? I probably clean my guns less than the average person haha. You think it could be because of your OAL? I emailed the guys at Brazos and they suggested a longer OAL than bullets without the lube groove in it since the lube groove bullet is slightly longer and has a different shoulder shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluffybadbad Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: Are you getting leading In your barrel though, or just your comp? I probably clean my guns less than the average person haha. You think it could be because of your OAL? I emailed the guys at Brazos and they suggested a longer OAL than bullets without the lube groove in it since the lube groove bullet is slightly longer and has a different shoulder shape I don't see any leading in my barrels, just the comp on the rifle that I have to hack out with a pick. I followed load recipes on here including OAL for similar guns and was expecting to hit 130pf with 3.8gr out of my shadow 2. I was pretty surprised that my velocities across the board were not insignificantly higher than almost everyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpm2953 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) On 6/17/2019 at 10:32 AM, looking4reloadingdeals said: Are you getting leading In your barrel though, or just your comp? I probably clean my guns less than the average person haha. You think it could be because of your OAL? I emailed the guys at Brazos and they suggested a longer OAL than bullets without the lube groove in it since the lube groove bullet is slightly longer and has a different shoulder shape I got major leading with the .356 Brazos in multiple guns. Tried some .357’s that a buddy had bought and they leaded too. My Sport pistol loads Sig X5 ambient temp 84 125gr BBI 1.125” 3.8gr. 1031 1042 1020 1044 1035 1037 1032 PF-129 3.9gr 1063 1051 1067 1060 1064 1066 1055 PF-132 Edited August 1, 2019 by jpm2953 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I was running SNS 147 grain out of both of my Xfives, and didn’t have any leading. I switched to “green” Bullets, because the owner gave me some to try, and they are more accurate in MY Xfives, than the SNS Bullets, and I don’t get any leading with them either. That said, my PCCs, are a pair of Sig’s, and I will only run jhps or plated Bullets. Same goes for my “open” guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetc Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 3 hours ago, RH45 said: I was running SNS 147 grain out of both of my Xfives, and didn’t have any leading. I switched to “green” Bullets, because the owner gave me some to try, and they are more accurate in MY Xfives, than the SNS Bullets, and I don’t get any leading with them either. That said, my PCCs, are a pair of Sig’s, and I will only run jhps or plated Bullets. Same goes for my “open” guns. what are green bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 58 minutes ago, chetc said: what are green bullets DG Bullets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I have been shooting plated bullets with sport pistol anyone have experience with exposed lead FMJ with sport pistol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 32 minutes ago, Timido said: I have been shooting plated bullets with sport pistol anyone have experience with exposed lead FMJ with sport pistol? I use it with RMR 124 Gr match winners on my shadow 2, X5 and TSO without any problems. I have since moved to using Precision Delta 124 Gr JHP to prevent leading on my MPX’s compensator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, George16 said: I use it with RMR 124 Gr match winners on my shadow 2, X5 and TSO without any problems. I have since moved to using Precision Delta 124 Gr JHP to prevent leading on my MPX’s compensator. How clean is the gas system on your MPX, using Sport Pistol? I’ve been running nothing but VVN320 and don’t know if I could even get it apart if I go much past 500 rounds without cleaning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, RH45 said: How clean is the gas system on your MPX, using Sport Pistol? I’ve been running nothing but VVN320 and don’t know if I could even get it apart if I go much past 500 rounds without cleaning I wouldn’t consider it clean compared to blowback rifles. It’s still dirty due to the design of the gas system. However, it was a little bit cleaner compared to using Win 231. I clean it after about 1k rounds or so. Just make sure you clean everything out especially the inside cavity of the gas plug. Keeping the bolt wet (almost dripping wet) helps a lot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 I've run n320 and sport pistol with plated and jhp with good luck. The n320 is very clean in both pistol and carbine. The sport pistol feels great but maybe a but dirty but not enough to bother me. The JHP have me some feed issues with the PCC so I am sticking with plated RN for the PCC and trying some of the match winners in my cZ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mveto Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Load data for Sport Pistol w/ Blue Bullets 135 TC .356 dia, out of two different SP-01's All rounds loaded at 1.133 length with range pick up brass and federal primers Gun 1 3.4gr Avg FPS 950.3 SD 11.8 PF 128.29 3.5gr Avg FPS 961.2 SD 10.5 PF 129.76 3.6gr Avg FPS 987.1 SD 12.1 PF 133.26 Gun 2 3.4gr Avg FPS 953.1 SD 8.1 PF 128.67 3.5gr Avg FPS 965.2 SD 12.9 PF 130.30 3.6gr Avg FPS 990.00 SD 7.7 PF 133.65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPQAIWB Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) Figured I would contribute and throw up my X5 legion data. All bullets are BBI 125 gr TC. Mixed range brass. CCI primers. Bullet. Gr. Powder. Charge. OAL. AVG Vel. PF. SD. ES. Low PF. High PF Black 125 Sport Pistol 3.6 gr 1.143 991 123.875 14 50 119 126 Black 125 Sport Pistol 3.8 gr 1.143 1013 126.625 17 62 121 129 Black 125 Sport Pistol 3.9 gr 1.143 1027 128.375 14 45 125 130 Black 125 Sport Pistol 4.0 gr 1.143 1044 130.5. 12 40 127 132 Black 125 Sport Pistol 4.0 gr 1.156 1045 130.625 14 40 128 133 Black 125 Sport Pistol 4.1 gr 1.156 1077 134.625 10 34 132 136 Black 125 Sport Pistol 4.2 gr 1.156 1076 134.5 12 38 132 137 Black 125 Sport Pistol 4.3 gr 1.156 1099 137.375 11 34 134 139 Edited December 31, 2019 by PPQAIWB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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