Firebull Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Custom 2011 makers have been marketing 9mm pistols that cost $5k+ in the last couple of years and much to my surprise, there are buyers for them. These are competition pistols (despite the makers’ claims they could be used for carry) and the only game where they would shine is the Tactical division in 3 Gun. In my 4 years of 3 Gun shooting, however, I have yet to encounter a set up where one would gain significant advantage from a high end 2011 pistol. Just curious who are buying these ultra expensive gamer pistols. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teros135 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 The only game where they could shine is 3-gun tactical? Am I missing something here? Like USPSA & IPSC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebull Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Serious USPSA Limited shooters go for 40 S&W due to major scoring. Never shot IPSC so don’t Know the rules - perhaps that’s why people buy them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Half of all Limited shooters last year shot Minor. Some of them were noobs put there because they didn't have enough gear for Production, but plenty of them are people that just like shooting 9mm Limited guns. Maybe you won't win Nationals shooting Minor (although Nils came close), but most of us are just shooting for fun anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebull Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 That makes sense. $5k+ is a lot of money (at least for me) so i thought people who buy them would be top caliber competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abigger04 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 It's just another recreational activity to burn money on. Some people have the excess funding to buy expensive motorcycles, boats, or do other costly recreational activities like skiing. I've always looked at this sport as just another outlet for that type of spending behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, Firebull said: That makes sense. $5k+ is a lot of money (at least for me) so i thought people who buy them would be top caliber competitors. They do not buy them they get them for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebull Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Just now, yigal said: They do not buy them they get them for free Touche! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Maybe you should take a look at the golf clubs in the bags of the "average" golfers at a local country club. Most have the money to buy better gear, but not necessarily the time or energy to actually practice. I'm always upgrading my gear, when I should be buying more ammo and practicing, but that's just not as much fun during the cold winter months in New England. It's easier to sit at home behind a computer and spend money in the hopes of improving my game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebull Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Haha ... that's a good observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firebull Posted November 8, 2020 Author Share Posted November 8, 2020 Talking about 9mm gamer guns, few people on Brianenos mention the Nighthawk double stack with IOS sights (the most ingenious iron/reddot site swapping mechanism -- far superior/durable to the screwed-on plates you find on Staccatos, Atlas, Akais, etc. in my humble opinion). Any thoughts as to why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inertia Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Firebull said: Custom 2011 makers have been marketing 9mm pistols that cost $5k+ in the last couple of years and much to my surprise, there are buyers for them. These are competition pistols (despite the makers’ claims they could be used for carry) and the only game where they would shine is the Tactical division in 3 Gun. In my 4 years of 3 Gun shooting, however, I have yet to encounter a set up where one would gain significant advantage from a high end 2011 pistol. Just curious who are buying these ultra expensive gamer pistols. Thanks. You may not see the advantage but the top tier of 3 gun shooters very clearly do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Firebull said: Talking about 9mm gamer guns, few people on Brianenos mention the Nighthawk double stack with IOS sights (the most ingenious iron/reddot site swapping mechanism -- far superior/durable to the screwed-on plates you find on Staccatos, Atlas, Akais, etc. in my humble opinion). Any thoughts as to why? Because open guys don't like slide riders, 9mm sucks for limited, 2011s are not legal for carry ops, so it is gun without a real place in USPSA and USPSA is where most Enos members play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary1911A1 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Maybe even some guys who have seem John Wick III. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstagn Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 (edited) If you don’t want to spend the money then don’t. Just look at other hobbies, like boating and golf as someone as already stated. Edited November 8, 2020 by jstagn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 Best way to get like I got mine buy sell trade, or buy when someone else is upgrading. If I could buy new don’t if I would. A lot of the used guns are in good condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankly Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 It's moot. We're about to experience a rapid and severe "market realignment" I fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 If you feel that a regular gun like STI Edge is interfering with your progress then you should definitely switch to a $ 5000+ gun. It does not matter which gun you use. It's not the arrow it's the Indian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I built a double stack 9mm on a Phoenix Trinity frame a couple years ago to use for 3 gun. But I just simply don't have the time. I've used it to shoot limited minor on occasion, but as you'd expect, scores are better shooting 40. Having said that, it's probably the nicest shooting 1911/2011 I own. And it does see quite a bit of use for practice and steel. I have zero regrets on the build, and zero intention of ever selling it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 I had Matt build this pistol for 3gun and Limited Minor. It's his Xframe and weighs 48 ounces. It is a pure joy to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 You think that a $5K competition firearm is expensive? LOL You must not have ever priced an entry level Kolar, Krieghoff, or Perazzi shotgun. $5000 x 2 is still about $3000 short of the price of admission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 35 minutes ago, SGT_Schultz said: You think that a $5K competition firearm is expensive? LOL You must not have ever priced an entry level Kolar, Krieghoff, or Perazzi shotgun. $5000 x 2 is still about $3000 short of the price of admission. And a custom bolt gun with decent glass is up near 10k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 9 hours ago, shred said: Half of all Limited shooters last year shot Minor. Some of them were noobs put there because they didn't have enough gear for Production, but plenty of them are people that just like shooting 9mm Limited guns. Maybe you won't win Nationals shooting Minor (although Nils came close), but most of us are just shooting for fun anyway. I'll never believe this. No one is shooting limited that isn't a noob or just dicking around and doesn't care about their scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 18 minutes ago, waktasz said: I'll never believe this. No one is shooting limited that isn't a noob or just dicking around and doesn't care about their scores. I've shot at quite a few clubs in the south and mid south where half the Lim shooters are shooting 9 minor or purpose, week in and week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 So which category are they in? I guess the second one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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