rowdyb Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) Strictly from the perspective of safety and not at all to capability or performance. Either for the duration of the condition or life. 1. What medical conditions should a provider request you not participate in action shooting style matches at all? 2. What medical conditions should you self select to remove yourself from participating in same? Edited July 14, 2022 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertwil18 Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 I would think any cardiac, pulmonary, or mental health "crisis" (among other issues) should immediately necessitate a hard introspective look at whether or not partaking in a sport involving the dynamic use of firearms is safe, intelligent, or in the best interest of the safety and longevity of the competitor and fellow competitors. A Provider can always request you refrain from certain activities. Whether or not a person chooses to listen to the advice of a medical expert is up to them. As for the rest, it is incumbent upon every person who carries, has access to, or competes with a firearm to make the responsible decision regarding the well-being of themselves and their fellow competitors. I have (in the past) had to remove myself from a range due to suffering the effects of heat exhaustion where the beginning stages of both physical and mental fatigue and an inability to make good decisions was becoming apparent. It's the right thing to do, but hard for anyone to put their pride and ego aside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Seizures would be on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 14, 2022 Author Share Posted July 14, 2022 Things effecting vision, grip and cognitive or consciousness. That's my initial thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 Balance & sudden vertigo is another. Seen some dudes shoot from wheelchairs and walkers, but if you don't and can't reliably stay upright and uprange of the bang, that's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
konkapot Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 Re: #2 I'd think PTSD/emotional distress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 My primary care provider already restricts me from certain activities. Fortunately, none involve shooting or moving. If he ever restricts me from something that prevents my continuing USPSA, I would comply. As far as self restricting, I have done that once. I had a temporary problem with my left ankle. It would occasionally buckle and I would stumble. The fear of doing a face plant with a loaded gun while running a stage caused me to withdraw. Safety first. I honestly believe most shooters would not allow pride and/or ego to cloud their decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWBaldree Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 The one guy that I can remember 'medically' giving up competition did so due to what he perceived to be mental lapses. Older guy, used to shoot with his son and grandsons, he picked up PCC back when that became a USPSA thing. Normally he was the type of guy that one would consider a very safe shooter and an excellent squad mate. Anyhow he picked up two 180 violation DQs in a row with the PCC, and decided that he was just not with it enough to keep competing and bowed out because he was afraid of injuring other shooters. Last I heard he was still hunting and keeping active, just no longer interested in racing with guns. I haven't seen anyone who shouldn't be out there due to a physical limitation, though I have seen people recovering from surgeries or minor boo-boos wear braces and take it easy, just to see friends and stay active. I figure if you are strong enough to help reset, then you are probably okay to play within your limits. I get much more concerned over shooters who are obviously mentally off their game, and have as a match director questioned a few and sent one home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 On 7/13/2022 at 11:01 PM, rowdyb said: Strictly from the perspective of safety and not at all to capability or performance. Either for the duration of the condition or life. 1. What medical conditions should a provider request you not participate in action shooting style matches at all? 2. What medical conditions should you self select to remove yourself from participating in same? Whatever prompted this odd question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share Posted July 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: Whatever prompted this odd question? Experiences in my own life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 hours ago, rowdyb said: Experiences in my own life Understood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I got medically downgraded from Master to B after sustaining a broken wrist that really limited my ability to grip the weapon. Takes a letter from your surgeon and concurrence form the Area Director. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 1) I don't usually talk with my doctors about shooting. 2) When I was diagnosed with T1D, I really took a step back and tried to make sense of what it might affect. I know how to manage it but sometimes it has other ideas. So I've always communicated with those I shoot with about what to look for as far as hypoglycemic episodes go. Other than making other aware, it's all good. I can't imagine anything short of Parkinson's or recovering from major surgery that would make me stop shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) In June I had a secondary viral infection that damaged my 7th and 8th cranial nerves. So my cochlea and vestibule don't send or receive anything to my brain. Meaning I am now completely deaf in my right ear, and have constant mid level vertigo that effects even walking difficult and makes running or riding a bike almost impossible. Edited July 18, 2022 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, rowdyb said: In June I had a secondary viral infection that damaged my 7th and 8th cranial nerves. So my cochlea and vestibule don't send or receive anything to my brain. Meaning I am now completely deaf in my right ear, and have constant mid level vertigo that effects even walking difficult and makes running or riding a bike almost impossible. Wow, that's a bummer Rowdy. Is there any treatment available? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, ChuckS said: Wow, that's a bummer Rowdy. Is there any treatment available? I did the initial high dose of corticosteroids. Now it is tincture of time. I will know by September the extent of any healing I'll have. Edited July 18, 2022 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHicks Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Sorry to hear that Rowdy. Balance and dizziness could really effect someone's ability to safely participate. I had to drop out of the final day at a match with those issues. Just once though. Good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 Thanks. I have not live fired since then, let alone competed. I hope I am in the 30% who recover completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 3 hours ago, rowdyb said: In June I had a secondary viral infection that damaged my 7th and 8th cranial nerves. So my cochlea and vestibule don't send or receive anything to my brain. Meaning I am now completely deaf in my right ear, and have constant mid level vertigo that effects even walking difficult and makes running or riding a bike almost impossible. I am very sorry to hear that, and I hope you recover completely. A riding buddy's GF has vertigo issues, and it is a life-altering problem, especially for us athletic types. It's hard to throw out blanket statements on stuff like this. Every situation is a bit different. As long as your mental state is not impaired, i would trust you to make your own reasonable decision about what you can safely do. If you can walk without falling, I would think you can safely shoot, but it might not be any fun. Keeping you in my thoughts, brother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 18, 2022 Author Share Posted July 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, motosapiens said: you can walk without falling I walk a very crooked line and sometimes need to reach for support whenit is acting up. But yeah, I could just stand at 10 yards and shoot groups and be safe. So while safe on the square range I don't feel safe teaching or competing currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, rowdyb said: In June I had a secondary viral infection that damaged my 7th and 8th cranial nerves. So my cochlea and vestibule don't send or receive anything to my brain. Meaning I am now completely deaf in my right ear, and have constant mid level vertigo that effects even walking difficult and makes running or riding a bike almost impossible. I am very sorry to hear this Rowdy. You're one of those super human folks who can do it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45 Raven Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Rowdy: Best wishes for a complete and rapid recovery. You will be in our prayers. Ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Thank you all and I appreciate it, definitely a journey. 2019 I had tuberculosis 2021 I had thyroid cancer 2022 this.... Fun times!! Edited July 19, 2022 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 when i had to have open heart surgery almost 8 years ago, the doc said if i got a mechanical valve, i could never shoot a shotgun again cause of blood thinner. easy decision-got a cow valve and still shoot 3 gun. hang in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 On 7/17/2022 at 11:10 PM, 9x45 said: I got medically downgraded from Master to B after sustaining a broken wrist that really limited my ability to grip the weapon. Takes a letter from your surgeon and concurrence form the Area Director. You could chop off both my legs and I'll never give up my G cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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