SergioSF Posted July 14, 2022 Share Posted July 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, admcd said: My main competition gun went down hard last match - rear sight broke at the hinge and the thumb safety broke off. I got it back together and running, but I don't entirely trust it now so the Honcho is so close yet so far away. I'm definitely not bitter. I know it'll be worth it. I just am tired of waiting. This is almost as bad as waiting for my daughter to be born. (Don't tell my wife I said that) As for load, I'm going to use HS6 to start and 124gr PD JHP. Based on research here, I'm thinking about 8.2gr will get me close. Probably start ~7.8 and build up. That sounds about right. see if you can get your hands on some Accurate #7. It feels softer and flatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admcd Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 On 7/14/2022 at 5:29 PM, SergioSF said: That sounds about right. see if you can get your hands on some Accurate #7. It feels softer and flatter. I've got about 4lbs of HS6. After I get through that, I'll give Accurate #7 some attention. The other one I'm scoping out is Autocomp. A friend of mine swears by it for 9mm. And PV seems to have it in stock a lot. Heard from PT that my Honcho might be shipping out early next week. So there's a CHANCE I'll have it by Thursday in time to shoot it Friday morning a bit before heading to a Level II match on Saturday. This seems like a sub optimal idea but go big or go home, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, admcd said: The other one I'm scoping out is Autocomp. A friend of mine swears by it for 9mm. And PV seems to have it in stock a lot. Autocomp is a very good 9MAJOR powder. Been using it for many years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertwil18 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 WAC is a solid powder for 9 Major in the Honcho. 6.9 -7.0 grains will yield good results with a 124gr PD bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegaspete61 Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Here is the load test data for my Honcho... 124 grain PD JHP 7.4 grains Auto Comp 1.170 oal Federal SPP Mixed brass 173 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admcd Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 FINALLY got my Honcho! Only was able to shoot a bit last night, but I'm definitely a fan of the gun! A few learnings right off the bat regarding screw tightness and optics mounts but I'm shooting it in a match on Saturday so we'll see. Will take it out once more tomorrow night to confirm my zero one more time and then it's game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerjet Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Got tired of waiting. Gun had to be coated three times and still didn't come out right. Ordered November 2021. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, engineerjet said: Got tired of waiting. Gun had to be coated three times and still didn't come out right. Ordered November 2021. So you have it or still waiting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 If there's a silver lining to this cloud, once the coating is accepted by PT it's very nice. The two honchos I have were delayed because of 'coating issues' however both were delivered in great condition. I've put over 10K rounds through my first one and the finish is still as nice as the day it was delivered 3 or so years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerjet Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Chillywig said: So you have it or still waiting? I am still waiting. They encountered some issues to the point where I requested a refund. I await their response Edited September 24, 2022 by engineerjet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 It seems good coating contractors are hard to come by; maybe they overloaded, volume/pricing or standards issue. I wonder if hard chrome platers would do better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerjet Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I was told that they are only liable for the service provided, so if they mess up a $7000 gun beyond repair, they are only liable for the cost of the coating service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, engineerjet said: I was told that they are only liable for the service provided, so if they mess up a $7000 gun beyond repair, they are only liable for the cost of the coating service. Insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroy Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 hours ago, engineerjet said: I was told that they are only liable for the service provided, so if they mess up a $7000 gun beyond repair, they are only liable for the cost of the coating service. Uhh that's not how that works. If I pay someone to paint my house and they put a bunch of holes in the walls, they don't just reimburse me for the paint. Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator9 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Clearly you didn't read their NO HASSLE warranty disclaimer...lol "Refund Policy All sales are final and no refunds will be provided. But DON’T WORRY! We back all of our products 100%. We will always warranty any defective product." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, notanoperator9 said: Clearly you didn't read their NO HASSLE warranty disclaimer...lol "Refund Policy All sales are final and no refunds will be provided. But DON’T WORRY! We back all of our products 100%. We will always warranty any defective product." Is this Phoenix Trinity’s Policy or the coasters? Hopefully it is the coasters. Edited September 25, 2022 by cbrussell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jt1207 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, cbrussell said: Is this Phoenix Trinity’s Policy or the coasters? Hopefully it is the coasters. He’s quoting PT’s policy. It’s on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Well that makes it easy; can take that company off my list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK66 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 I’ve have had nothing but great customer service from PT. From the call when I ordered my Honcho to now. Any issues or questions I have get answered and taken care of very quickly. Just my experience with them….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbrussell Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Their stated policy really worries me. Why put out such a thing if customer service is a priority?Maybe there is something I am missing. I have watched a bunch of their videos/podcasts; seem like really nice people. Seems the stated warranty is at odds with their personality’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notanoperator9 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Phoenix Trinity is the new Salient Arms International / Triarc ...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerjet Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 2 hours ago, notanoperator9 said: Phoenix Trinity is the new Salient Arms International / Triarc ...lol I'm out of the loop, whatever happened to SAI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mule169 Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Well wish I saw this thread a-lot sooner than when I ordered my PT. They always seem to have sales going on, thought it was kinda weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
engineerjet Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Update to my situation. They agreed that a refund was the best course of action. Their modularity is what really drew me to them, but I have a limited gun already so its not a huge loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, engineerjet said: Update to my situation. They agreed that a refund was the best course of action. Their modularity is what really drew me to them, but I have a limited gun already so its not a huge loss. I know that's not the outcome you wanted originally when you ordered the gun, but I think it seems fair under the circumstances. I guess that's good on them for not making it a headache for you and getting a refund. Glad it all kinda worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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