Nalle2491 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I disengage right when the gun is horizontal to the ground as im punching out. Since I ride the safety it only takes a small amount of pressure when i decide to disengage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Un4givin Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I disengage the saftey as soon as the gun has cleared the holster and is coming up to the target. I’ve dryfired it so much that it’s muscle memory and I couldn’t pin point the exact moment it happens but it’s probably somewhere around a 45 degree angle just because I’m moving the gun and my support hand so fast for that first shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 They probably should re-evaluate that technique. That’s a DQ’able offense. In what rule book?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 About midway between the holster and weak hand. Feels natural, acquiring my grip that way. Also, any later would cost time on the rare weak-hand transfer. With a single-sided safety at least. I do this tooSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 As the muzzle is leaving the holster and started to point towards the target. Except for that one time when I went from shooting an M&P for a while then decided to shoot SS for giggles and forgot to disengage until after I pulled the trigger and watched that muzzle dip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 My safety comes off about the time when my weak hand gets a good grip on the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_stw Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 I disengage the safety as I am coming up to get my sight picture. since I started shooting a 2011 that is naturally what I did when disengaging the safety and it seems perfectly safe to me. number one safety is keeping your finger out of the trigger guard and off the trigger until your ready to shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted August 25, 2018 Share Posted August 25, 2018 At last weekend's match, people were talking about somebody's pistol that would go off when you disengaged the safety. Didn't catch the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robb315 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 7:59 PM, Matt1 said: In what rule book? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Go back through this post. Already quoted rule number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, robb315 said: Go back through this post. Already quoted rule number. Yes the rule was quoted. But it amazes me how several folks still thought it was ok to flip off safe as soon as they touch the gun. If the gun is still holstered and flip safety off that’s a DQ without question. It’s pretty hard to catch though as things happen so fast. The one case I saw was a guy drawing and holster was left locked. He grabbed gun and flipped off safety and gun never left holster. He was DQed when RO noticed safety off while trying to draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomar83 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Very interesting. I have never heard of this happening. It makes you wonder why that person locked his holster after making ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk21 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Gomar83 said: Very interesting. I have never heard of this happening. It makes you wonder why that person locked his holster after making ready. Probably had the pistol locked while pasting/resetting and failed to think about unlocking when given make ready command. First time I switched from a striker fired pistol to a 2011 I was DQ’d for a ND as I disengaged safety right out of the holster and before I was on target trigger finger came in sent one down range. Since that time I’m riding safety until I get sight picture on the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomar83 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 That’s a good lesson to learn from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Climbhard Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 On 8/15/2018 at 1:24 PM, Yeti said: I disengage (thumb stays on) after the muzzle clears the holster, but is pointed low and downrange on the way up... well before my support hand comes on. This. Barrel is close to horizontal but not much above my waist. Support hand is just starting to come under the trigger guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeski Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I disengage once both hands are on the gun and I am pushing out towards target. It seems the most natural to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadus123 Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 It has become so automatic that I had to draw the gun numerous times before I could answer. I disengage the safety just before placing my weak hand on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandflea316 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 8/30/2018 at 10:19 PM, Climbhard said: This. Barrel is close to horizontal but not much above my waist. Support hand is just starting to come under the trigger guard. pretty much how I do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerJockey Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 I'm in the 4 motion draw camp. 1. Scoop or seat the grip while bringing the support and near the stomach 2. Pull the pistol up to clear the holster 3. As the pistol comes up, take the safety off just before your support hand lands so that the support hand doesn't get in the way of the safety coming down 4. Lock in and punch out while getting the trigger finger on the face of the trigger After that, see sights, go bang! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salsantini Posted October 1, 2018 Share Posted October 1, 2018 On 8/31/2018 at 12:09 AM, Mikeski said: I disengage once both hands are on the gun and I am pushing out towards target. It seems the most natural to me. This is also when I take the safety off. Pistol is pointing down range and is in a safe direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosswoodford Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Generally I have it disengaged once I get to my support hand. It feels natural that way. Finger isn’t on the trigger until I’m on target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanks Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 On 8/25/2018 at 8:14 PM, Hawk21 said: Probably had the pistol locked while pasting/resetting and failed to think about unlocking when given make ready command. First time I switched from a striker fired pistol to a 2011 I was DQ’d for a ND as I disengaged safety right out of the holster and before I was on target trigger finger came in sent one down range. ... If the shot had landed outside of 10 feet from your location and not over the berm you should not have been DQed. ND by itself during the COF is not a DQable offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacivilian Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I have large hands and have to get my thumb out of the way in order to put my support hand on the gun so I flick off the safety pretty early. I would say it is as soon as the muzzle has cleared my feet and is moving upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk21 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) On 11/13/2018 at 4:52 AM, tanks said: If the shot had landed outside of 10 feet from your location and not over the berm you should not have been DQed. ND by itself during the COF is not a DQable offense. Tanks thanks for that....BUT RO stated the bullet ricocheted off the ground and over the berm into the trees, thus warranting the DQ. Edited November 15, 2018 by Hawk21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hawk21 said: Tanks thanks for that....BUT RO stated the bullet ricocheted off the ground and over the berm into the trees, thus warranting the DQ. BULL$#!T !! If it strikes the ground more than 10ft away it doesn’t matter where it goes after that. Bad call!! Edited November 15, 2018 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Sarge said: BULL$#!T !! If it strikes the ground more than 10ft away it doesn’t matter where it goes after that. Bad call!! By the letter of rule 10.4.1it appears that the shooter was not firing a shot at a target so he is not granted allowance for the bullet traveling in an unsafe direction? Seems like the r.o. made a reasonable call?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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