jejb Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I've noticed my CZ S2 is more picky about my reloads than any of my other 9's of various makes. Not a OAL issue, but slight case expansion apparently. I have a single round plunk tester that works well, but that's not going to work for me as I'd like to check every round I make. So I'm looking at the 100 rounds plunk testers. Shock Bottle, Armanov and Lyman each make one. Does anyone have any experience with any of them, good or bad? Like most things, you read reviews and each have positive and negative feedback. The Armanov seems nice with it's included flip tray, but I don't think that's a show stopper since 100 round plastic reloading boxes will work also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I have a Shock Bottle 9mm hundo. Works very well. When used with Dillon ammo boxes, load the hundo, then place an empty Dillon 100 round box on it, flip, and go. This does put the case head down in the Dillon box, but I just use another Dillon box and flip them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, jejb said: I've noticed my CZ S2 is more picky about my reloads than any of my other 9's of various makes. Not a OAL issue, but slight case expansion apparently. I have a single round plunk tester that works well, but that's not going to work for me as I'd like to check every round I make. So I'm looking at the 100 rounds plunk testers. Shock Bottle, Armanov and Lyman each make one. Does anyone have any experience with any of them, good or bad? Like most things, you read reviews and each have positive and negative feedback. The Armanov seems nice with it's included flip tray, but I don't think that's a show stopper since 100 round plastic reloading boxes will work also. Th Hundo from shockbottle is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I bought the Armanov and shock bottle at the same time to test which one is better. For me, the shock bottle was better made so I returned the Armanov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I have this same problem with a couple of CZ's and tight Taccom barrels. Not so much the OAL depending on bullet profile, but a slight expansion of the case when using coated bullets and a bigger bell to not scrape off the coating. The shock bottle hundo works great. If the round doesn't drop completely in the hundo and seat, it will cause a problem in some of these tight chambers. They run fine in an STI & JP barreled PCC, but not the CZ. Took me awhile to catch this when I case gauge, to be very picky on how far they seat. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigarmsp226 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Another Shock Bottle Hundo user here and I really like the fact that you can also use it to mark your brass if you decide to do so...Great product.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iflyskyhigh Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 I love my Armanov. I have one in 9, 40, and 45. I think they are made incredibly well. I like that they included both the gauge and the flip tip. I think Shok makes you pay extra for the flip top and it's made of plastic. If I'm not mistaken. Plus I'v had some really great customer service form Armanov. The guys over there are top notch. Armanov has all kinds of accessories for the gauges as well. One to mark the cases. Another that lifts the cases up to check for uniform COAL. It's pretty innovative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 Shock Bottle with a Flip Tray from Ben's Pro Shop. Cat's Meow.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillChunn Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 22 hours ago, Sarge said: Th Hundo from shockbottle is great. The flip tray is also handy. Saves double flipping into / out of a Dillon box. Have been using it for over a year. It's easy to check the primer seating when the rounds are in the Hundo. Run you finger across the caseheads and you should feel a slight indentation when the primer is seated correctly. The exception is Winchester brass. Their primer pocket is just a bit shallower than the others so on those rounds, your finger just slides across. When that happens, the case brand is checked and if it's WIN then move on to the next one. The rounds that stick up out of the gauge are relegated to the practice ammo box. BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 Thanks guys, I went with the Hundo. Seems to get the best overall reviews also. I'll just use the reloading box double flip thing to get them out of the tester and boxed up. Seems simple enough. iflyskyhi, I have some Armanov stuff for my dillon, and it works well. I wanted to go that way, but there are just too many negative reviews on their plunk tester for me to feel confident about it. Glad you're happy with yours though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpmo Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, BillChunn said: It's easy to check the primer seating when the rounds are in the Hundo. Run you finger across the caseheads and you should feel a slight indentation when the primer is seated correctly. I use this same method with the hundo. In addition, I use a bitf pressure when checking the primer seating. This will make any non-passing round actually get stuck in the gauge. Then when I go to flip, the ones that are still in the gauge get relegated to practice. Using MTM cases btw which also work with the flip method. I recommend this little handy accessory in addition: https://rangepanda.com/collections/misc-products/products/dmd-hundo-risers?variant=31072202391651 Depending on your OAL, this will help catch more case gauge failures. Edited February 24, 2021 by mpmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 I have both the Armanov and the Shokbottle in 9mm. I also have the EGW 7 round gauge which is supposed to be the tightest of all 3 case gauges. I found the Armanov to be more consistent than the Hundo as well as being tighter. My Hundo sits on the shelf while my Armanov is my go to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 9 hours ago, mpmo said: I use this same method with the hundo. In addition, I use a bitf pressure when checking the primer seating. This will make any non-passing round actually get stuck in the gauge. Then when I go to flip, the ones that are still in the gauge get relegated to practice. Using MTM cases btw which also work with the flip method. I recommend this little handy accessory in addition: https://rangepanda.com/collections/misc-products/products/dmd-hundo-risers?variant=31072202391651 Depending on your OAL, this will help catch more case gauge failures. Thanks. I watched a video where a guy just used the lid of an MTM box to do the same job as your linked accessory. So I think I'll try that first. I have several MTM boxes, so I'll just make sure I leave at least one empty for doing the testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Man, why can’t all of you just agree as to which one is better? That would make my decision sooooo much easier! I definitely need to decide and just order one soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4n2t0 Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 Everyone agrees that you should get a Hundo. Done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted June 24, 2021 Share Posted June 24, 2021 (edited) On 2/23/2021 at 9:44 PM, Hooked said: I have both the Armanov and the Shokbottle in 9mm. I also have the EGW 7 round gauge which is supposed to be the tightest of all 3 case gauges. I found the Armanov to be more consistent than the Hundo as well as being tighter. My Hundo sits on the shelf while my Armanov is my go to. As I posted on the other thread, same applies to me. This is my choice for the Shadow 2 Orange! https://usa-shop.armanov.com/products/case-gauge-bundle-3-in-1 Edited June 24, 2021 by HOGRIDER sp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lll Otto lll Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Cuz said: Man, why can’t all of you just agree as to which one is better? That would make my decision sooooo much easier! I definitely need to decide and just order one soon. It's not that one is necessarily better than another....it's just that they're different. Ben Stoeger Pro Shop is down the road from me, so I went with Hundos. I have the black flip trays as well, which I use way more often than the blue risers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, lll Otto lll said: It's not that one is necessarily better than another....it's just that they're different. Ben Stoeger Pro Shop is down the road from me, so I went with Hundos. I have the black flip trays as well, which I use way more often than the blue risers. I think I've come to that same conclusion. I have some Armanov products and I'm happy with them. This time around I'm going to go with Hundo mostly because I've learned a lot from Shred's posts over the last 15+ years and want to share the wealth. Just waiting to hear back from Stoeger so I can place the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted June 25, 2021 Author Share Posted June 25, 2021 Thread starter here. FWIW, I've been happy with the Hundo. I think it might a little bit overly picky at times, but if it indicates it passes, it never fails in my S2O. I collect the "rejects" and shoot them up every now and then. Most still work fine, but there are usually 1 out of 10-15 or so that will not cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpm8300 Posted June 25, 2021 Share Posted June 25, 2021 The hundo and cheap plastic 100 round ammo boxes work well - as previously stated, just have a few extra boxes so you can do the transfer twice. Of note, you'll want to take a brush and clean the hundo every once in a while because it will get gummed up and it will be hard to tell if a round is sticking or if there is gunk making the round stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fedupflyer Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 My hundo (non-match)is tighter than my EGW gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ85Combat Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 The EGW gauge does good checking brass, but is poor when it comes to checking loaded ammo. A 0.355" bullet will not pass through my EGW gauge. The EGW gauge will reject rounds based not only on the case size but also OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix1977 Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 Love my Armanov. Great product, great customer service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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