GrumpyOne Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 Welcome to the forums, QualityGuru. Might I suggest that you carefully read the forum guidelines? They can be found by following this link. https://forums.brianenos.com/guidelines/ Specifically, Posting GuidelinesAttitudePlease be polite. Or if not polite, at least respectful.No bickering. Regardless of the subject matter.Antagonistic, offensive, or quarrelsome tones are not acceptable.No trolling. No alternate accounts. And this, Brian's Forums is not the place to resolve customer service issues or disputes you may have with a manufacturer, dealer, gunsmith, or individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) On my new in box 929 the cylinder was hard to spin. When my gunsmith did an action job on it, he said a collar was in backwards, or something like that. And from the factory the double action trigger pull was 12 - 14 pounds, at least. Edited January 17, 2020 by ysrracer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 (edited) I would not waste my time sending it back to S&W. I would send it to Pinnacle and have Mark make into exactly what you want. Nowadays, If I buy a new gun, I fully expect to send it out and have it worked on. Craftsmanship is a thing of the past with factory guns. Edited January 17, 2020 by Prange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBurgess Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 I've said it before and I'll say it again, Smith revolvers (and in truth most guns) should be bought with the expectation that you are buying a gun kit. the kit includes all the parts to make it work and it most likely will fire as purchased, but beyond that it is not ready for any type of competition. you have a choice to have it worked on by a reputable smith or do the work yourself but work it will need. a follow on to this is there are very few smiths in the country that you can send it to to get a competition tuning work done, yes your local smith will sell you a trigger job and cylinder chamfer but when you pick it up it is likely to have a 9lb trigger and the cylinder holes will have the sharp edge broken but not a real chamfer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 8 hours ago, MikeBurgess said: your local smith will sell you a trigger job and cylinder chamfer but when you pick it up it is likely to have a 9lb trigger and the cylinder holes will have the sharp edge broken but not a real chamfer. I guess it depends on who your local gunsmith is Mine is pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerMcFadden Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 9 hours ago, MikeBurgess said: I've said it before and I'll say it again, Smith revolvers (and in truth most guns) should be bought with the expectation that you are buying a gun kit. I’d be stoked if I was able to buy a 929 “kit” that was just the frame and cylinder. No barrel, sights, or action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 hours ago, RangerMcFadden said: I’d be stoked if I was able to buy a 929 “kit” that was just the frame and cylinder. No barrel, sights, or action. You can. I do it all the time. Usually 900-1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, MWP said: You can. I do it all the time. Usually 900-1100. I was going to say the same thing but was going to add that you get extra parts thrown in for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoots100 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Qualityguru, A little research in this forum would've show'd that almost all 929's needed work to make them function to a competitive standard. With some guidance from this forum, quality parts and some elbow grease, my 929 is rock solid and has been so for the last couple of years. Your not alone and we understand your frustration, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. SJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Thunder Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 And, hopefully, that light is not a train headed your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 I bought a 1969 Plymouth Roadrunner. I had to put headers, cam, carb, and manifold on it to get it race ready. There ought to be a law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cking Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 That's why I bought a Taurus 692 for half the price and in my opinion it is a better gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 My 929 must have been the exception. Other than blowing my cylinder apart with a double charge there was nothing wrong with the gun that I didn't expect. All my S&Ws needed action jobs and the Michulek (SP) video helped me get the action I wanted along with replacing the hammer with an Apex. My trigger pull was 5 lbs and accuracy was outstanding. I did use .358 coated bullets with VV N320 to get a 132 power factor. I also used it a lot for Steel Challenge Matches and put a C-More Railway on it and Hogue Big Butt grips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoots100 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, cking said: That's why I bought a Taurus 692 for half the price and in my opinion it is a better gun Better or not, It's one shot less than the 929 and that 8th shot is worth the extra $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchapman Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, AzShooter said: My 929 must have been the exception. Other than blowing my cylinder apart with a double charge there was nothing wrong with the gun that I didn't expect. All my S&Ws needed action jobs and the Michulek (SP) video helped me get the action I wanted along with replacing the hammer with an Apex. My trigger pull was 5 lbs and accuracy was outstanding. I did use .358 coated bullets with VV N320 to get a 132 power factor. I also used it a lot for Steel Challenge Matches and put a C-More Railway on it and Hogue Big Butt grips Steve, yours is not the only one, mine is just like yours pictured and it has run great since I got it and did a bit of work that I knew would need to be done to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchapman Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, shoots100 said: Better or not, It's one shot less than the 929 and that 8th shot is worth the extra $$$. I will agree with you about the extra shot, plus the fact that most Taurus revos have ported barrels and no place to play in most of the gun games we partake in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen0ph0n Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 6 hours ago, AzShooter said: My 929 must have been the exception. Other than blowing my cylinder apart with a double charge there was nothing wrong with the gun that I didn't expect. All my S&Ws needed action jobs and the Michulek (SP) video helped me get the action I wanted along with replacing the hammer with an Apex. My trigger pull was 5 lbs and accuracy was outstanding. I did use .358 coated bullets with VV N320 to get a 132 power factor. I also used it a lot for Steel Challenge Matches and put a C-More Railway on it and Hogue Big Butt grips Did you do all the action work yourself? Did you find that it was difficult, or was it fairly simple following the video? I'm looking at picking one up, but I don't have a local gunsmith I'd trust with a revo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 23 hours ago, MWP said: You can. I do it all the time. Usually 900-1100. You guys beat me to it. I really like the titanium cylinders. They spin SO easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 11 hours ago, xen0ph0n said: Did you do all the action work yourself? Did you find that it was difficult, or was it fairly simple following the video? I'm looking at picking one up, but I don't have a local gunsmith I'd trust with a revo. I've done a lot of my own work on my revolvers and it's not that difficult using the right stones and watching the video. Just take your time and leave the Dremel out of your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 33 minutes ago, AzShooter said: I've done a lot of my own work on my revolvers and it's not that difficult using the right stones and watching the video. Just take your time and leave the Dremel out of your hands. Dremel's commercials should be "Keeping real gunsmiths in business ever since we invented the Dremel!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen0ph0n Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 11:40 AM, AzShooter said: I've done a lot of my own work on my revolvers and it's not that difficult using the right stones and watching the video. Just take your time and leave the Dremel out of your hands. I think that's good advice for most people... Thanks for the info - I'm looking forward to doing some of my own gunsmithing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QualityGuru Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 Great intel from everyone. I needed it, since this is my first Competition Revolver. I did send it back to S&W to have them look at the internals and pitting on the frame which had rust residue. I want to make sure that I actually purchased a new revolver. After I get it back, I will heed the advise of Prange, and have Pinnacle take a look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prange Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 On 1/19/2020 at 1:40 PM, AzShooter said: I've done a lot of my own work on my revolvers and it's not that difficult using the right stones and watching the video. Just take your time and leave the Dremel out of your hands. I did my 986. It came out better than I expected. Jerry's video helped alot. Nowhere near Mark's, but not bad. The Dremel's are for the pros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 On 1/23/2020 at 12:04 PM, QualityGuru said: Great intel from everyone. I needed it, since this is my first Competition Revolver. I did send it back to S&W to have them look at the internals and pitting on the frame which had rust residue. I want to make sure that I actually purchased a new revolver. After I get it back, I will heed the advise of Prange, and have Pinnacle take a look at it. when did you send your 929 in? I sent my 627 in for a broken Trigger Stud in early November and haven't heard anything from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWP Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 2 hours ago, pskys2 said: when did you send your 929 in? I sent my 627 in for a broken Trigger Stud in early November and haven't heard anything from them? They had mine 2 years ago for 6 months and several hundred dollars for a trigger stud. I wished I would have not sent it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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