RGC Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 Looking for an "economical", new 9mm Major Open pistol. Contemplating a BUL UR or MPA Open design. The BUL is significantly less than the MPA, but the MPA shares all 19/2011 parts vs top end of the Bul. Any insights or experiences (including customer service) on which would shoot flatter, reliably, etc? I would be using boxed 9mm Major (BlackDot, AA) for awhile until I commit the time fully to get back to reloading and work schedules change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rnlinebacker Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Please DO NOT go with Bul. Their warranty went to crap. Have a Bullesteros. MPA, got to handle it at Nats and it is awesome for the price. Built here and they will warranty their stuff. Edited January 17, 2023 by Rnlinebacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordManHammer Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 I love my Bullesteros. I can't speak to the warranty. I've never needed to inquire about warranty work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthwestGuy Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 I love my SAS ll UR. I also can't speak to the warranty, but any question or issue that I have had, has been answered within 12 hours!. I've never needed to inquire about warranty work as my pistol has performed perfectly. I say yes to Bul Armory, 100%. I had a Czechmate before I purchased the Bul, and the difference is night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGC Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Hmm. I sent a few inquiries out but had zero responses and after 4 days am less optimistic. MPA actually responded within minutes.... Now if USPSA Limited Optics were a "real" thing my decision would be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, RGC said: Hmm. I sent a few inquiries out but had zero responses and after 4 days am less optimistic. MPA actually responded within minutes.... Now if USPSA Limited Optics were a "real" thing my decision would be clear. Brazos . The semi custom seems pretty good for the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGC Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 35 minutes ago, Sarge said: Brazos . The semi custom seems pretty good for the price Looked at it years ago and now again...wonder what the feedback would be on popples with 9mm Major on boxed (BlackDot, AA) ammo would be.....just do not have time to reload at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 6 hours ago, RGC said: Looked at it years ago and now again...wonder what the feedback would be on popples with 9mm Major on boxed (BlackDot, AA) ammo would be.....just do not have time to reload at all. Shoot Bob an email and he will let you know. I have one of his limited guns I bought used and before I got it sent him some questions and replied quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildPete Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 MPA completed warranty work for my DS9. Great communication and a great job getting my early DS9 Hybrid up to specs with current models. So my vote is with MPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrloman Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 MPA owner but new to the 2011 game but my DS9 I just received has been flawless, 300 rounds and no issues yet as I am still getting a handle on switching platforms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 10 hours ago, Sarge said: Brazos . The semi custom seems pretty good for the price just got mine in december. no matches yet. very nice fit and finish. with his load recipe, the gun shoots pretty flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyglock Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Sarge said: Brazos . The semi custom seems pretty good for the price This would be a far better choice than the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 MPA has great customer service. I bought an early DS9 and they contacted me for a free upgrade to current DS9 specs - just got it back. Great communication. I use their products for PRS and see the owner Phil regularly at matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 1 hour ago, donnyglock said: This would be a far better choice than the other two. I know several people that use Bob’s semi custom guns and they all like them. Love mine it just runs with no issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGC Posted January 19, 2023 Author Share Posted January 19, 2023 Some trade offs....now to choose what barrel for Bobs and 38SC or 9.....and I sold my reloading equipment a while ago lol..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted January 19, 2023 Share Posted January 19, 2023 Its nice to see that good customer service is part of your purchase price. It’s important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanb Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 20 hours ago, RGC said: Looked at it years ago and now again...wonder what the feedback would be on popples with 9mm Major on boxed (BlackDot, AA) ammo would be.....just do not have time to reload at all. I have some to test but Everglades did not make power factor out of my gun. Limcat long with 4 popples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerTrace Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I've never held a Bul, but I have fondled a few MPA guns. I like the price point. The triggers have all been vertically sloppy which is one of the first things I check on a nice 1911. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmatte1 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Have a couple Bul. Nice guns but if you have any questions about replacement parts or anything else with the guns, You’ll more or less be met with a dead end on customer service. And warranty is voided if you even use a non factory magazine. Let alone if you want to do any custom work to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGC Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 14 hours ago, davsco said: just got mine in december. no matches yet. very nice fit and finish. with his load recipe, the gun shoots pretty flat. 9 or 38SC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGC Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 14 minutes ago, Pmatte1 said: Have a couple Bul. Nice guns but if you have any questions about replacement parts or anything else with the guns, You’ll more or less be met with a dead end on customer service. And warranty is voided if you even use a non factory magazine. Let alone if you want to do any custom work to it. Thanks for that. Not keen on companies that use warranty verbiage escape clauses.... thank you for your transparency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwontanamo Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I was also in a similar dilemma between MPA and BUL. I’m convinced with MPA. I shot 38SC for along time when I was shooting open. I’m running CO at the moment and hope to get back into Open with 9major after I retire or if my kids get into the sport with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 9 hours ago, RGC said: 9 or 38SC? old school 38 super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 MPA is not a true "custom" 2011 they are putting parts together from other manufacturers. I have their DS9, and its a beautiful firearm but it needed some work such as a trigger job/tuning, polishing internals, modding, etc. My gunsmith looked at my MPA DS9 hybrid and right away noticed tool marks, not buttery smooth action, trigger was advertised at 2lbs when it was over 3lbs~ extractor needed to be tuned, barrel lock up need some adjustments, etc. For the price MPA is a nice option, I would disregard any products from Bul Armory, simple reason is that their magazine are propriatery and that's no bueno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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