yekcoh Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Does anyone know what the F might have happened to these? They are OOS everywhere. Plenty of 17 rounders available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texas45 Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I just got my order delivered from Sig. Try them. $49.95 each Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted July 28, 2021 Author Share Posted July 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, Texas45 said: I just got my order delivered from Sig. Try them. $49.95 each When did you order yours? It's certainly out of stock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davsco Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 are the factory 21rd sig's the go-to for uspsa carry optics? with the factory basepads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioLefty Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I use 21 round factory Sig magazines with Taran Tactical Innovations (TTI) +2 baseplates with stock 21 round springs in USPSA. They fit the gauge and have been 100% reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GringoBandito Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, davsco said: are the factory 21rd sig's the go-to for uspsa carry optics? with the factory basepads? Yes but you have to grind a portion of the pad away to make them fit. It's pretty easy and I think the guy from "go fast, don;t suck" did a video on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B585 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, OhioLefty said: I use 21 round factory Sig magazines with Taran Tactical Innovations (TTI) +2 baseplates with stock 21 round springs in USPSA. They fit the gauge and have been 100% reliable. ^^^^This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam_b Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Don't show OOS at CMMG. https://cmmg.com/magazine-sig-sauer-p320-21-rd-blk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDude Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I picked up 6x 21rd mags from Dawson Precision last week. Little more $ than usual at $57 but shipping is free and no Tax. They still have few in Stock. https://dawsonprecision.com/magazine-sig-p320-9mm-21-round-coyote-tan/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, OhioLefty said: I use 21 round factory Sig magazines with Taran Tactical Innovations (TTI) +2 baseplates with stock 21 round springs in USPSA. They fit the gauge and have been 100% reliable. I realized that +2 actually requires a special follower to allow 23 rounds. Quote Don't show OOS at CMMG. https://cmmg.com/magazine-sig-sauer-p320-21-rd-blk You guys are awesome. Thanks!! Just placed an order at CMMG Edited July 29, 2021 by yekcoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDude Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, yekcoh said: I realized that +2 actually requires a special follower to allow 23 rounds. You guys are awesome. Thanks!! Just placed an order at CMMG No need for special follower. My 21rd mags just needed TTI Base. Stock Spring and Follower. I can fit 23 rd no problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, SeattleDude said: No need for special follower. My 21rd mags just needed TTI Base. Stock Spring and Follower. I can fit 23 rd no problem Hmmm. I have TTI basepad but can only fit 22 reliably. 23 is too tight to cycle. Taran seems to have updated the product description. It used to be called 2+ but now it just says 1+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDude Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, yekcoh said: Hmmm. I have TTI basepad but can only fit 22 reliably. 23 is too tight to cycle. Taran seems to have updated the product description. It used to be called 2+ but now it just says 1+. Hmm... I picked up 6 of TTI Pads last week from Shooters Connection. 22 Reloadable, 23+1 to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, SeattleDude said: Hmm... I picked up 6 of TTI Pads last week from Shooters Connection. 22 Reloadable, 23+1 to start. I gave myself the benefit of the doubt and just tried again. 22 no problem. 23 really really forced and not reliable. Thus 22+1 I also tried Gramms follower. 23 but last one is really forced in making the slide difficult to cycle... So I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here Edited July 29, 2021 by yekcoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeattleDude Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Just now, yekcoh said: I gave myself the benefit of the doubt and just tried again. 22 no problem. 23 really really forced and not reliable. Thus 22+1 Its possible that springs will break in a little bit after use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillChunn Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 5 hours ago, yekcoh said: I also tried Henning's follower. 23 but last one is really forced in making the slide difficult to cycle... So I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here Try Grams spring and follower kits. With the TTi basepad my magazines hold 23+1. With most stages being 8 round neutral, that gets you through three arrays without a reload. If the stage is longer than that, reload with a magazine holding 22 rounds so it will function. If the reload contains 23 rounds, it may not seat all the way and drop out or there is enough pressure on the slide to stall the gun. With that one reload, you have 46 rounds available which is more than the normal field course. https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Grams-SpringFollower-Kit-Sig-Sauer-P320P250-P4544.aspx It also helps to use a Uplula to load the mags, specifically loading the 23rd round. https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Uplula-Universal-Pistol-Loader-P437.aspx BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertTortoise Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 If other Army units are like mine, we ordered hundreds of these. SIG may be trying to catch up with military and consumer demand ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, BillChunn said: Try Grams spring and follower kits. With the TTi basepad my magazines hold 23+1. With most stages being 8 round neutral, that gets you through three arrays without a reload. If the stage is longer than that, reload with a magazine holding 22 rounds so it will function. If the reload contains 23 rounds, it may not seat all the way and drop out or there is enough pressure on the slide to stall the gun. With that one reload, you have 46 rounds available which is more than the normal field course. https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Grams-SpringFollower-Kit-Sig-Sauer-P320P250-P4544.aspx It also helps to use a Uplula to load the mags, specifically loading the 23rd round. https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Uplula-Universal-Pistol-Loader-P437.aspx BC Correction, I tried Grams follower and spring and I'm still getting 22 reliably. 23rd one is forced in. I normally use 22 rounds just fine but there is at least one stage at a majaor where 23+1 is a big advantage so I need at least one that works. Here is one example... Not sure why I have to explain why I need a 23+1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpeters11 Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I too had a little trouble finding the 21 round mags, there’s a few sellers on gunbroker though. $45 per and $10 shipping seems more than fair. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/906899338 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wurm Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 You aren't kidding. I looked around for some new 21 round magazines and they are out at all of the places I usually buy from. My mag setup is using the 21 round magazine body with the Taran +2 and the Grams spring and follower for a reloadable 23 round magazine. I did have a few magazines that wouldn't quite fit the gauge with this combo so I had to take a tiny bit of material off the back of the feed lips but they are all good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yekcoh Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, wurm said: You aren't kidding. I looked around for some new 21 round magazines and they are out at all of the places I usually buy from. My mag setup is using the 21 round magazine body with the Taran +2 and the Grams spring and follower for a reloadable 23 round magazine. I did have a few magazines that wouldn't quite fit the gauge with this combo so I had to take a tiny bit of material off the back of the feed lips but they are all good now. Yeah I searched for them for two weeks and realized all outta stock but the kind folks on the forum guided me nonetheless. I'm still having a hard time fitting 23 rounds... Springs are new but I still find that concerning especially since I'm shooting majors pretty soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Mine would not work with grams springs. I use tti springs and grams followers for 23rnds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I have a few 21rd magazines that have grams springs, followers, and TTI basepads. I don't trust them to run 23+1 rds. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't... perhaps they are still relatively new but so far they're not 109% reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerjd Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 All 8 of my 21rnd with tti +2 pads hold 22 and can reload with iut them falling out the gun or slowing slide down too much. 23 is doable but..... very tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 I have 8 21rd. mags with TTI bases, stock spring and follower, and get 23 reloadable. I use a LULA on the last round, but I can do it with my thumb if I want to. Don't want to do it all day though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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