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Thanks for the tip.

Thanks for the feedback. The weight is less of a concern for me, but the size is very important. With the standard X 5 grip, I can’t fit my support hand on the grip very well. With those dimensions, I think I would be good to go. Thanks again for taking those.

If you are familiar with Steve Anderson, try to get into Match Mode (not Speed Mode) at least 4 days prior to the match. As Ben (and many others) elude to, make sure you aren’t cheating during dry fire....correct grip, correct pressure, adequate sight picture, correct size of targets, minimal to no movement of sights during the trigger press. Everything I have said in both posts are coming from my own mistakes and experiences.

The white wall drill like Ben (and others) discuss can be helpful for the basics. My problem was I had a pretty good trigger press as long as I wasn’t on the clock....then it went to h#ll....so I did the same thing you are doing. I found that during dry fire making sure pretty much 100% of your concentration goes on into watching your sights/calling your shots helps a lot.

Any chance you could post a pic of the grip with a mic on it or just measure the length and width with a mic?

Awesome job!!

http://www.shootingsportsinnovations.com/X5-Tungsten-Grip-Module-X5-Grip.htm

I know there is no simple way to quantify grip size, how much bigger is it? The reason I have not purchased an X5 is because the grip is too damn small. I can make XR grip work, but hated to lose the undercut.

Since I seem to be an outlier in terms of only using 4.7 at 1.182 to make Major PF, I will note the following: The PF was determined at a Sectional match. A couple guys in my squad thought the Chrono was reading slow while others said they thought it was dead on. It was almost 90 degrees when I chronoed. I am using Winchester primers. Those numbers were obtained through a STI barrel. My personal chrono tends to read very close between both my 2011s and the other has a SV Ultramatch barrel. For Majors, I determine the charge by averaging the weight of 5 charges. The initial weight is measured on a manual scale and then every 100th bullet is checked with a digital scale. If I need to make a change, I make it averaging 5 charges on the manual scale. I check the length with a mic on every single bullet and only accept 1.179 to 1.186. Again, I was shooting 180 GN Blue Bullets. Yes, my process is surely overkill but since this was my first Major, I wanted to make sure that any mistakes I made during the match were my fault and not my equipment or ammo. I am not sure why I am getting away with less powder.

Thank you for an excellent explanation of my thoughts.

I use 4.7 of N320, 180 Blur Bullets, 1.182 OAL, out of my 5'' 2011. It made 170.5 PF. This was with different headstamped brass.

As already mentioned, visualization. I wish I understood that better when I first started.

Very cool of you. Thanks

If you are worried about MATCH performance, you won’t hero or zero the classifier. You will shoot them at the fastest pace you think you can hit. This ultimately affects the HHF. If the newest “fix” truly fixed the problems with classication, then making the changes so drastic all at once would have made a little better sense but it would still result in 2 different outcomes. The post 6-28-18 classification in Production, Limited, and Open would be better than the pre 6-28-18. If you didn’t like the PGA example then look at baseball. Years ago there were more HRs, but baseball didn’t change how tight the balls could be wound mid-season. Point is no major sport makes changes to the rules mid-season unless there is a safety concern. We all know there are more than double the matches going on right now compared to the winter months.

Maybe some of the more experienced guys know of something but I don’t know. By now, I have learned what gives me troubles I have with various guns so when I’m at a match and there is a guy with a gun I am interested in, I would ask the person if I could try it out. I mainly look at establishing a proper grip and seeing if the grip is conducive… Do the curves in the front of the grip fall at a point where my joints are and whether there is enough room for my support hand palm to sit against the gun instead of on top my fingers of my support hand.