glocklover Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 I shoot a open STI DVC in 9mm. I"ve shot 6-7 thousand rounds through it in the past year with cheap range brass. No problems. A guy I shoot with says I shouldn't shoot them. I should buy new 9mm brass. Head case separation? Should I be worried? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, glocklover said: I shoot a open STI DVC in 9mm. I"ve shot 6-7 thousand rounds through it in the past year with cheap range brass. No problems. A guy I shoot with says I shouldn't shoot them. I should buy new 9mm brass. Head case separation? Should I be worried? No don’t worry. Many of us reload 9MAJOR over and over and over. Don’t load any of the stepped junk and you’ll not be able to tell a load with new brass from a load with brass on its 5th or 6th loading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericskennard Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 (edited) I have even seen new brass have case head separation. I use once fired brass from LEObrass.com. A very nice guy to deal with. I don't have to worry if the brass was used in some really hot major round. The price is so cheap, I usually don't even bother picking it up! Edited February 22, 2019 by ericskennard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfitz427 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 No problems here with range brass. I do sort out the lesser know brands, and use that for minor loads, and I toss the stepped stuff. For major i use blazer, FC, win, and those are usually the bulk of what I pick up. But I also will use PMC, Speer, and I’m probably forgetting a few other brands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomar83 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 What are you guys referring to “steppes brass”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gomar83 said: What are you guys referring to “steppes brass”? One of the many discussions: ETA another: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gomar83 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 WOW that is insane! Is the step brass a 9 mm thing only, or does the case design carry over into other calibers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glocklover Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 Awesome. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glocklover Posted February 22, 2019 Author Share Posted February 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge said: No don’t worry. Many of us reload 9MAJOR over and over and over. Don’t load any of the stepped junk and you’ll not be able to tell a load with new brass from a load with brass on its 5th or 6th loading Great! Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 6 hours ago, Gomar83 said: Is the step brass a 9 mm thing only, or does the case design carry over into other calibers? I've only heard of 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 sometime you may run into bad brass. this happened out of my Tanfo open gun. this was with 9.7 gr AA7 and 115 fmj. i have to load short oal of like 1.115-1.12 . "Ammoload" was the headstampSent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 The reason really serious shooters say buy new brass is consistency. Range pickup 9mm brass is very inconsistent. Much more so the 40 or 45. Case volume varies a lot. So does wall thickness and the hardness of the brass. It make reloading more of a chore. It also leads to less consistent ammo. Personally, I would not buy new brass. If I thought that feasible I'd have built 38SC instead of 9mm. I'd love to buy fully processed once-fired same headstamp brass, but the supply is always limited. I think I'll sort some headstamps to use in matches that chrono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 2 hours ago, darthdively said: sometime you may run into bad brass. this happened out of my Tanfo open gun. this was with 9.7 gr AA7 and 115 fmj. i have to load short oal of like 1.115-1.12 . "Ammoload" was the headstamp Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk That's stepped brass for you. Ammoload is one of the main headstamps on it around here. There's also some brass-plated steel cases out there as well, but a magnet dragged through the brass bucket usually catches them, or one of the slick casefeed tube magnets if you don't have many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxbat Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 The only issue I have seen with 9mm brass used many times over was primers falling out. No big deal when happens in practice, a bit upsetting in a match, but might cost you a second or so, so I no longer use old brass in matches, only once fired, but that "buy new brass" story is a total hogwash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Just take all the "range brass" 9mm you have and sort by headstamp. This will give you all the uniformity you will get. Trade what you don't use with someone in your area that does use it. Adds a little more time to the reloading but you will gain as much uniformity as you can easily - cheaply - get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 All I use is range brass. Load it until it splits or you lose it. I dry tumble all my round before case gauging to find loose primers. No issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glocklover Posted February 23, 2019 Author Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Steve RA said: Just take all the "range brass" 9mm you have and sort by headstamp. This will give you all the uniformity you will get. Trade what you don't use with someone in your area that does use it. Adds a little more time to the reloading but you will gain as much uniformity as you can easily - cheaply - get. Good tip. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshi Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I buy my process brass from Everglades Ammunition, it’s like brand new..https://www.evergladesammo.com/brass/9mm-processed-brass.htmlSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 I buy mine from AmmoBrass. https://www.ammobrass.com/product-page/9mm-fully-processed-reloading-brass I like it much better than Eveglades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, zzt said: I buy mine from AmmoBrass. https://www.ammobrass.com/product-page/9mm-fully-processed-reloading-brass I like it much better than Eveglades. Why do you like it more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, GrumpyOne said: Why do you like it more? Looks to be significantly cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasdawg Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I use range brass from pick ups after my practices and when I shoot CO indoors for my practice sessions. I use processed brass from east coast reloading for matches. It's even cheaper than the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 10 hours ago, GrumpyOne said: Why do you like it more? Cheaper, better looking and lubed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPENB Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Wow, that is great looking brass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ph4t0ny Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I've been running with range pickups for years, but I buy from Northwest Iowa Brass for all my competition stuff. They process it to the point it's almost indistinguishable from new brass from starline or others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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