vgdvc Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 For any of you out there, including myself, who don't fancy having the flat mainspring housing on a standard 2011 STI plastic grip or 1911 frame do you prefer an arched or wedged profile and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
36873687 Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I tried the arch it just wasn’t for me. It’s definitely heavier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I run arch on my sti, but that's just me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 Arch feels way more natural and solid for me on plastic STI grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgdvc Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 I have the Dawson which profile on my STI plastic grip that has been slightly reduced. I have arched on all my other 1911 frames. Still trying to decide which of the two I like best. Interesting the revamped Army 1911A1 decided on an arched mainspring housing and original short trigger as it fit the average hand best and had the best results with experienced and newly trained soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgdvc Posted December 6, 2018 Author Share Posted December 6, 2018 Above meant to read Dawson "wedge" profile ( damn voice command,lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I have arched ms housings on all my 1911/2011 pistols. The extra material fills the palm area of my hand and makes my grip more secure. I find the arch is a better, more natural fit than the wedge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harlow Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 I was just able to get my arched Dawson msh into my STI plastic grip and absolutely find it easier to acquire my sights. I had a flat msh on a 1911 that I sold, and found the flat just didn't work with what my hands wanted to do, and I was too stubborn to practice with it till it worked. As much as I like the arched I may eventually get a wedge to see if it feels any better, but right now I at least know I prefer arch to flat. It's always gonna come down to preference as usual. What works for one may not for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 the different mainspring housings are meant to fine tune the gun so your natural point of aim and the actual bore line up. A thicker mainspring housing will tilt the bore up. Flush will bring it down. Nothing to do,,, or at least shouldnt be about preference. Its a physical adjustment of the gun. Stand square and focus on a small target, close your eyes. Present the gun at the target, open your eyes. Where are the sights in relationship to the target ? For STI's, Caspian, and Para's , Flush MSH seemed to be closer. For SS Arch works better for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM83 Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 I went with a Dawson arched mainspring housing on my STI. I don't know if the housing was out of spec (Dawson claims this isn't possible) or the grip was out of spec, but I had to remove a fair amount of material to fit the mainspring housing. I definitely prefer arched to a flat housing, but other than handling a few 1911s with a wedge I have no experience with wedges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 2:21 PM, Joe4d said: the different mainspring housings are meant to fine tune the gun so your natural point of aim and the actual bore line up. A thicker mainspring housing will tilt the bore up. Flush will bring it down. Nothing to do,,, or at least shouldnt be about preference. Its a physical adjustment of the gun. Stand square and focus on a small target, close your eyes. Present the gun at the target, open your eyes. Where are the sights in relationship to the target ? For STI's, Caspian, and Para's , Flush MSH seemed to be closer. For SS Arch works better for me. Very interesting. I have an STI with plastic grip and flush MSH. It points low every time. I will try something thicker. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Posvar said: Very interesting. I have an STI with plastic grip and flush MSH. It points low every time. I will try something thicker. Thanks! Arched will help with that. Ultimately dryfire and familiarity with the gun will help the most Arched also help me to not push the shots low under speed/match conditions. As stated above it is also a great help for many of us with grip fitment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 1:21 PM, Joe4d said: the different mainspring housings are meant to fine tune the gun so your natural point of aim and the actual bore line up. A thicker mainspring housing will tilt the bore up. Flush will bring it down. Nothing to do,,, or at least shouldnt be about preference. Its a physical adjustment of the gun. Stand square and focus on a small target, close your eyes. Present the gun at the target, open your eyes. Where are the sights in relationship to the target ? For STI's, Caspian, and Para's , Flush MSH seemed to be closer. For SS Arch works better for me. The Wedge is closer to the Arched, maybe even halfway between probably depends on manufacturer. I had a wedge on my 1911 and it worked good. Back to Flat now though, really don't know why either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 Hello: A wedge or curved mainspring housing will make your wrist angle different than using a flat mainspring housing. Think, more of a Glock angle which is more like true target pistols. It locks your wrist up a little more so some may not like that feeling. The only way is to try one to see what you like the best. Of the two I like the curved more than the wedge but like the flat the best. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I like arched, but on the guns I had with a functioning grip safety It made it easier for my handsize to not fully depress it, leading to me readjusting my grip on the clock to get a "live" gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pc70 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 12/6/2018 at 2:21 PM, Joe4d said: the different mainspring housings are meant to fine tune the gun so your natural point of aim and the actual bore line up. A thicker mainspring housing will tilt the bore up. Flush will bring it down. Nothing to do,,, or at least shouldnt be about preference. Its a physical adjustment of the gun. Stand square and focus on a small target, close your eyes. Present the gun at the target, open your eyes. Where are the sights in relationship to the target ? I have been shooting the ARCHED since 1982 for exactly the reasons noted by Joe4d. Its just a good tweak to get your sights on target sooner. The flat housing was the sweetheart oh so many years ago and I see that has been the status quo but ask yourself why do YOU have one. Did it come on the gun? Does your favorie shooter have one on their gun? Then perhaps you didnt know you could tweak your sights by using a different MS housing. The more I read these forims the more I find that a LOT of what we used to do in the infancy of this sport is lost on the masses but none the less it is what will help YOU shave tme and produce more Alphas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vgdvc Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 8 hours ago, rowdyb said: I like arched, but on the guns I had with a functioning grip safety It made it easier for my handsize to not fully depress it, leading to me readjusting my grip on the clock to get a "live" gun. This has happened to me with an arched on my 1911 but not with wedged on my 2011. Not sure if it has to also do something with the grip design/diameter but if I put an arched on my 2011 I might consider disengaging the grip safety. BTW any recommendations on how to do that process? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 3 hours ago, vgdvc said: This has happened to me with an arched on my 1911 but not with wedged on my 2011. Not sure if it has to also do something with the grip design/diameter but if I put an arched on my 2011 I might consider disengaging the grip safety. BTW any recommendations on how to do that process? Simple method; electrical tape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posvar Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 ^^^ I did this for my 2011 ESP IDPA gun at local matches as I would disengage the safety and gun wouldn't go bang. At major matches it's a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubadude Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I like the arch. It fills my hand better, so it feels better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaynePatrick Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Does anyone know which magwell is notched for the Dawson Blue Steel wedge mainspring housing. Want to add to my DVC L. Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheers623 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 19 hours ago, WaynePatrick said: Does anyone know which magwell is notched for the Dawson Blue Steel wedge mainspring housing. Want to add to my DVC L. Thx Pretty sure the Dawson Ice is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaynePatrick Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 5 hours ago, cheers623 said: Pretty sure the Dawson Ice is I bought the Dawson wedge. Mag well descriptions were unclear, I’ll have the stock one milled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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