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vgdvc started following Limited Optics with a Converted 40 Cal Limited Gun - Let's DO THIS!!! , Congress amends H.R.1808, adds new weapon , Area 7 AD just got removed and 2 others
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LMFAO. I never checked out the Humor section before here on the forums. Need to start making it a routine for some comic relief in life. Haven't come across one yet that wasn't hilarious.
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Limited Optics with a Converted 40 Cal Limited Gun - Let's DO THIS!!!
vgdvc replied to CHA-LEE's topic in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
If you're really into the 9mm route I would absolutely contact the authority on magazines, Beven Gram at Grams Engineering. Super nice guy, ridiculously knowledgeable about magazines and very willing to help. He helped me get things squared away on my STI tubes. In my experience his components are the best. -
I've been competing in USPSA, IDPA 3-GUN, steel shoots, and various Run n Gun matches for over 24 years. I shot a PCSL 2 gun match in November. A lot of fun. Rules, including those for type of target engaging, are fairly straightforward and simple. There seems to be a reasonable amount of deviation from standard USPSA matches that should make this user friendly to all experience/skill levels and keep it challenging enough for top level status shooters. Like any new format I'm sure it will go through a few modifications as time goes on and match directors that embrace it give their feedback. I plan on running local club matches based on PCSL and it's flexible guidelines. All that being said I would like to see PCSL have its own forum here. There seems to be enough merit to warrant it. A forum would certainly help promote the sport and create an awareness of it.
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Limited Optics with a Converted 40 Cal Limited Gun - Let's DO THIS!!!
vgdvc replied to CHA-LEE's topic in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
Good luck with the conversion, keep updated with how it goes. I'll pick up the torch for the 40. Getting a EGW plate to put a not in use Delta point pro on my Tangfolio Limited with lightened 6 in upper. Been playing with minor loads around 138 pf. It's so silly soft and flat shooting.(accurate also) Looking forward to running it in LO. -
Limited Optics with a Converted 40 Cal Limited Gun - Let's DO THIS!!!
vgdvc replied to CHA-LEE's topic in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
Sounds like more good reason to breathe new life into those .40 limited pistols. Get em set up with an optic (while keeping the option of reverting back to irons if possible). Shoot minor pf for now and take advantage of smooth recoil/ bigger holes. IF LO becomes a minor/ major division you'll be gtg dominating in Major. Win-win for the .40 Limited guys who reload! For giggles I threw an EGW plate w/ optic on a Tanfo. Limited with 6" lightened upper. 155gr coated with Clays @138 pf. 15yds. 6 rounds at speed in center headbox was silly easy..... Didn't have my timer with me but speed,cadence,dot movement was similar to my Brazos open gun at 175 PF. Not as snappy quick but everything landed where it needed to fast. Going to work with a few of my other limited pistols to see which feels best. I hope more experiment with the .40 LO option. -
Limited Optics with a Converted 40 Cal Limited Gun - Let's DO THIS!!!
vgdvc replied to CHA-LEE's topic in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
I hear you but Limited Optics is still a provisional division correct? Is there no chance that it will have minor/major scoring? -
Limited Optics with a Converted 40 Cal Limited Gun - Let's DO THIS!!!
vgdvc replied to CHA-LEE's topic in USPSA/IPSC Shooting
This is a reasonable advantage for a 135ish pf .40 shooting minor scoring only. In my area there were some M and GM shooting .40 in production. Granted, the round count was limited to 10 for any caliber but a .40 round nose flat point ,especially with a coated bullet ,makes a large pronounced hole. Think how many of those "just outside the A zone 9mm Cs" would be easily called as an Alpha with a 13% bigger hole that a .40 makes. 180 grain .40 and Clays/Clay Dot is super soft shooting. Want some more snap? Load 155/165gr with Clays. Want it even snappier? Load 155/165gr and Tite group. Lots of options. I like the concept of taking a .40 gun, putting the advantages it has to offer to use, and whoop up on alot of the 9mms. I see it as some payback for trying to make .40 an obsolete cartridge and pushups ng out major scoring. -
Limited Optics - Minor Only vs. Major/Minor scoring
vgdvc replied to 3gunDMD's topic in USPSA/IPSC Rules
Good, and quite possible for some others. Safely making 9 major could cause issues with some blowback only pcc's relying on bolt weight and spring tension only instead of a lockup mechanism. If they were going to do major/minor scoring they could have minimum caliber requirements as they do in single stack and limited now. Doesn't seem that's going to be a concern however.... -
Limited Optics - Minor Only vs. Major/Minor scoring
vgdvc replied to 3gunDMD's topic in USPSA/IPSC Rules
Yeah, bad things would happen. That's why I was very specific and said all pistol divisions have the ability to shoot safely with major and minor calibers. Then again ,PCC could certainly do it in 40 and 45. Ah, what's the point. Doesn't really matter. Everything's going to minor scoring anyway, right? Hey, maybe we could really get the power factor down low and have .22 rimfire pf. No, wait ,airsoft like they have in Japan! Oh no, he did not just go there! But I digress, just being silly now.... It's a game. I'll enjoy playing it and be competitive however they decide to land the rules. I definitely know how to distinguish between a game and practical. -
Limited Optics - Minor Only vs. Major/Minor scoring
vgdvc replied to 3gunDMD's topic in USPSA/IPSC Rules
While they're at it they should definitely drop the v out of DVC. Apparently Vis (power) is no longer a fundamental principal for the sport even though it precedes Celeritas (speed) when USPSA was originally formed. Make no mistake, red dots divisions will dominate . Accuracy/aiming requirements will demand it as MDs will continue to make stages more challenging based on Red Dot participation. Certainly not a bad thing as red dots on pistols will become more of a practical standard just as they have become on rifle platforms generally reserving irons for backup. -
Limited Optics - Minor Only vs. Major/Minor scoring
vgdvc replied to 3gunDMD's topic in USPSA/IPSC Rules
Perhaps that is it the direction they feel they should go, so be it. If the premise of minor/major scoring isn't going to be recognized I would propose at that point that they are consistent across the board and not have major/minor for ANY division. Every pistol division has the ability to be shot with major and minor power factor calibers safely so why only limit minor/ major scoring to a select few. Keep a meager low minor power factor for everything. Go out be safe, shoot and have fun. It's a game and , especially with minor only scoring, has very little purpose of being considered practical for anything else. -
Limited Optics - Minor Only vs. Major/Minor scoring
vgdvc replied to 3gunDMD's topic in USPSA/IPSC Rules
You could be correct. If that is the case they might as well be real and take the "P" out of USPSA. It defeats the purpose of power factor and any reality it is supposed to represent which was the purpose of minor/ major scoring. If it morphs into what you are saying things have a way of reverting back to the means at some point.