SyNaPsE Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Is there any place for a .45 in any division these days? Does a nice custom .45 have any value in the competitive shooting world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Single Stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 4 hours ago, SyNaPsE said: Does a custom .45 have any value in the competitive shooting world? Not an awful lot ... not since everyone ran into Production, Limited or Open - that's where 90% of current shooters are. VERY few people shooting Single Stack (mostly .45's). BUT, there are still some diehards shooting .45's - you would be shooting against them, not everyone else When I got started in USPSA (late 80's), Everybody shot .45 (except for those wise guys shooting their new fangled 10-shot .38 supers. But, they were the minority - but they kept winning matches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 ipsc outside of the usa you have classic division uspsa here you have single stack division idpa here you have cdp (custom defensive pistol) normally divisions with very small participation unless people are prepping for a certain match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Even in Single Stack, there are many shooting .40 over .45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 However, I'd imagine that most 1911s sold are .45s. Not 2011s, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 9 hours ago, SyNaPsE said: Is there any place for a .45 in any division these days? Does a nice custom .45 have any value in the competitive shooting world? They have value in their place, just not broad appeal. Not quite to the point of revolver but getting close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If a shooter competes in SS and limited, 40 for both divisions makes the most sense. Otherwise SS is where 45 shooters play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eureka1911 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I shoot .45 in SS because I like 1911s. Guess that makes me a die hard. If my goal was to dominate USPSA, achieve GM, etc. then I'd likely shoot production, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNaPsE Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Thanks for all the replies. That makes my decision easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck TLE Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 One more opinion - Limited 10 in .45 with 10 round SS mags. Has anyone seen the equipment survey results from this years SS Nats? That will be a good data point for this conversation to inform the OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 1 hour ago, SJan said: If a shooter competes in SS and limited, 40 for both divisions makes the most sense. Otherwise SS is where 45 shooters play. There is also the fact that since there are 10 round .40 mags available for single stack, shooting .40 gives you the option of shooting minor or major. If I was starting fresh, I would go .40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlm Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I guess I am a die hard SS 45 ACP shooter. Have 5 1911 45 ACPs. All set up the same way. It is a kick in the butt when you can come in the top 15% of a match of 50-60 shooters with an old SS 45 ACP. But yes, I am an old guy and used to be 45ACP ruled for years in USPSA. IMVHO Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeski Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I have shot both .45 and .40 in single stack. The only reason I stick with .40 is I can use the same load that I use for my limited 2011. I don't have to worry about loading 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWprotected Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 I still think most shooters shooting single stack shoot .45 for a couple of reasons. First is .40 is not available in many guns, and second .45 seems to be less problematic. I know a few guys who have .40 single stack guns and they work but I think they are more picky about magazines than .45. I think the first reason has more to do with it in reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckfarris Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 We have a local guy that shoots one in revolver. I would probably get a 40 over 45 in singlestack however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Everyone talks about the magical 10 round magazines in 40 so you can shoot major or minor with the same gun. And yet... I don't think I've ever seen it in reality. People shoot 40 SS guns, sure. But they only shoot them in major with 8 rounds. And, more people shoot 45 in SS than 40 at this point. The advantage of 40 i would think is just in the cost of reloading it: 40 bullets are cheaper than 45s.OP, you shouldn't even consider L10. Because L10 is a hider division that should be deleted. Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 If you're in my lane so to speak, .45 is not dead and L10 shooting .45 is a fine place to hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNaPsE Posted July 31, 2017 Author Share Posted July 31, 2017 Great points. I may have to check out L10 and decide whether to shoot the SS or the 2011 both in .45. Or just go for Limited with my Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gooldylocks Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 This is getting a little off topic, but the reason that L10 should be deleted is that there are already rules in place for what happens if state law has a maximum magazine capacity. Shooters in high cap divisions are already supposed to be shooting at whatever the legal limit is, so L10 holds no value other than the very few people that shoot either odd ball guns that don;t have high enough capacity (CZ97, HK45/USP), or to people that shoot 1911s with 10 round mags. Neither of which are large enough groups of people to justify it's existence. /rant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunBugBit Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 I'd be fine if I got to shoot 10 rounds of .45 in the Single Stack division. I think of myself as a Single Stack shooter but when I use the 10-round mags, which tends to make it more fun, then I'm in L10, "coming up from below," so to speak, since my setup is that of Single Stack. Those who "came down from above" have advantages over me, but I don't care. I relish beating shooters on this or that stage, or entire matches, who have big equipment advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 9:46 AM, ChuckS said: There is also the fact that since there are 10 round .40 mags available for single stack, shooting .40 gives you the option of shooting minor or major. If I was starting fresh, I would go .40. except that everyone who shoots 10-round 40 mags admits they don't really work 100%. Sometimes you have to question them pretty closely before it finally comes out. If you already have a 45, it is a great gun for SS or L10 (if you're a hider). If you don't already have one, it is probably more efficient to go with 40. OTOH, it's alot easier to find a quality 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I shot a Springfield xd tactical for my first 2 years. I put a solid stainless guide rod, powder river precision trigger kit, titanium striker safety, and modified mags to hold 18 rnds. I had already owned the gun before getting introduced into the shooting sport and it was fun. I made it to B class with it. I now own a 2011, but shot the 45 last match just to reminisce. It was a tough platform to "learn" with, but you learned how to drive the gun and also how to absorb recoil. Good times for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer002 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 6:08 PM, SyNaPsE said: Great points. I may have to check out L10 and decide whether to shoot the SS or the 2011 both in .45. Or just go for Limited with my Glock. Wait...a 2011 in .45? Well, honestly, if that is where your original question came from, no, there really isn't a good place for it. If it was .40, then yes. SS, absolutely, .45 with 8 round mags. Some people do it, but really, stay away from L10 with the single stack. The 10 round mags are widely prone to feeding issues, especially on slide lock reloads. I shot SS my first season and I still attribute it to teaching me how to break down and plan a stage. Glock = meh. If you are wanting to compete, get out there with whatever you got and get started. Wouldn't suggest investing down a particular path until you have some matches under your belt. Not many people shoot the 1911's after single stack nationals at the beginning of the season, but the division really is fun and a great way to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 19 hours ago, motosapiens said: except that everyone who shoots 10-round 40 mags admits they don't really work 100%. Sometimes you have to question them pretty closely before it finally comes out. And that's why I never switched from my old .45 1911s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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