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  1. My Open gun has a cmore 6moa. Love it. My open .22 pistol and rifle for steel challenge both have cmores. Recently got a new Volquartsen Black Mamba for rimfire open division in steel challenge. Put a venom 6moa on it cause I see others seeming to like it and its very light. Ive practiced with it a lot and shot a couple matches with it. Recently came to the conclusion I have to give up on it and go back to a cmore. Same as mentioned, it doesn't seem as bright. I don't lose the dot often, but the timer doesn't lie, I'm slower with it. After giving it due practice and a couple matches, as much as I want it to be right, its just not for me. As far as an opinion on polymer vs aluminum - I have never had an issue with my polymer cmores holding zero, and I shoot my open gun (9 major) quite a bit. Although I have heard many others have experienced issue. The aluminum are much heavier. I have read and heard many times over the aluminum have an issue with cracking in the front bend in the cold. The polymer ones have treated me right and I am moving back to another one for the Volquartsen.
  2. Um....a Smith and Wesson 15/22 is NOT a PCC. Its a a .22. I run a Hyperfire in my PCC. And Im not sure why my post from TWO YEARS AGO is relevant here nor regarding your statement, which is exactly what I was explaining TWO YEARS AGO. So, like, thanks for the info.....TWO YEARS too late. Can you say RANDOM?
  3. Most challenging shot of the 8 stages = 18 yards to a 10 inch plate. all guns = 18 yards
  4. Absolute hogwash. They are used in competition on both rimfire pistols and rifles to get assured interaction with the timer with no basic physics or calculations to say a reputable, good condition comp, not physically interfering with the bullet as it passes, would have any effect on accuracy nor any other issue that can be named. Enjoy your book and dry fire banners, but you’re dead wrong here.
  5. Well....there’s a lot of topics in that seemingly simple question, and all the posts so far are good info. I’ll try to add. First, as Zack said, you may need to evaluate your devotion to steel challenge. Do you like it enough to continue? Is it trigger time practice for other disciplines? Or is steel challenge going to be a serious competitive focus? Personally, I fit best in the last category with rifles, however I shoot USPSA rather competitively in the Open division with a 9 major Tanfo. Shoot what you have with what you have first. If it’s what you are used to, you will have an honest evaluation as to what you think and feel compared to your previous experience with your known equipment, rather than wondering if differences in feel or result are from a recent change in equipment you’re not yet familiar with. With that said, when I decided to shoot the open division with my Tanfo Witness, my first deviation was to use Winchester white box. My open load was just way too much for steel challenge in my opinion. My pistol has 2 barrels, a factory loaded round only (minor) with far less porting, and the open barrel with 12 ports. The minor barrel, even with less velocity ammo, had far more dot movement, obviously due to lack of gas through the comp. The open barrel worked quite well, however zeroing was needed. I found there was a significant difference in zero from my open loads to the Winchester. The recoil was “less,” and as you might expect, “different” from 9 major with slightly more dot movement. For me, it worked just fine. I shot a level 2 match with that ammo without need for spring adjustment. For me, because my main steel challenge focus is rifles, the Winchester was good enough. If I were to become more serious about steel challenge open division I would begin load development with a 100 grain FMJ bullet. I think the 3N38 would be fine. Personally, I greatly prefer HS-6 for all things open. As said above, I would look for the 150ish PF range with focus on dot movement during recoil as the determining factor. For that matter, stick with your current powder load and just change the bullet, test to see where u are at - it just might be very close to the desired change. At this point, again, like all things open, you would have a very good idea of where you want to be with your particular equipment. The low weight bullet will allow loading for very little recoil with very little dot movement due to still working the comp. From there, move down in PF until dot movement increases or gun won’t function reliably even with spring tuning. If enough deligence is spent in this area, open guns can be made to run almost like its cheating. Nearly no recoil with nearly no dot movement. Just try to remember to maybe give a friendly heads up to the RO, those low weight bullet loads in open, as you may know, are super loud! ESPECIALLY through mine, which is already one of the loudest. Also, maybe check out Atlanta Arms, they make some 100 grain bullets you can buy loaded. Certainly not perfect for open, but to get an idea if you like. Now, if you happen to be one of the many on the range with seemingly unlimited funding, lol....after determining your interest level, and finding a devotion to steel, a designated gun tuned to a designated load is in all our dreams. STI has a specific product for it as well if that’s your preferred company. No matter what, absolutely come out and play. Steel Challenge is exploding and I absolutely love seeing more and more people of all levels joining in. Open has crazy peak times set by the pros, so it’s really cool to see where you stack up and chase improvement! Hope to see you out there somewhere.
  6. 18 yards. All guns. Aim low on stop plate for Speed Option
  7. I don’t shoot them, so all my info is second hand from the guys I shoot with and help. Apparently there is a strong preference of either the black over the clear, or could be visa versa, managing the spring, aligning the follower, and even wrapping electrical tape around the outside to maintain position in the magwell. My understanding is there are YouTube vids out there, but I haven’t looked since I was making the decision a couple years ago, and you my have to ask guys that use them. Wish I knew off the top off my head to be exact, but it’s just not info I use regularly. It’s out there though. I do know they are susceptible to malfunction when dirty and not fun to clean.
  8. 2 seasons? lol. You should get many years out of it, even at high use. Passing on advice given to me, Eley Contact in the rifles is amazing. When I changed to it, I literally took 3 seconds off my total time immediately. You wouldn't think there is much recoil to a .22 rifle until there is NONE! I have had 3 malfunctions in the time I have had the rifle. One cost me first place in a level II on showdown - it was a magazine issue. The second was the exact same malfunction, teaching me what happens when you wear out the 15-22 mags - the front of the plastic feed lips wears away, allowing the round to stand up straight and not feed. The third was a really weird deal where the ejected brass somehow bounced back in the chamber area and BEHIND the incoming round pointing up and down. Locked it up tight. Otherwise = outstanding reliability. Chevy vs Ford...maybe. I think each have completely different "styles" due to the way the stock is made. The 15-22 allows me to stand up straighter and far more square. For example, on Smoke N Hope, I stand with both feet nearly side by side with maybe the right foot an inch further back, so nearly completely square, and let the hips/knees do all the work like shooting a pistol = upper body like a turret. With a 10/22, due to the stock angle and comb, I need to drop my right foot much further back and bend at the waist, leaning into the rifle. Perfectly normal shooting stance, just different than the AR stance. The shooting movement then tends to involve the arms and shoulders in addition to the waist and knees to move the rifle. I think both rifles themselves are equal in reliability, its the mags that are so different. The 15-22 mags are flawless until greatly worn, and its easy to see when that happens cause two bullet heads will protrude above the lip entry. The 10-22 mags are greatly flawed, or at least greatly inconsistent, and for competition, you have to find ones that like to run AND tune them AND maintain them to get 100 percent reliability. Once you do so, the 10/22 can be just as reliable, just saying its a little more work.
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