WidowsSon683 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Does anyone know where I can get some 12 gauge dummy rounds. I need to be able to practice loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If you never chamber a round, you can use loaded ammo. Dummy rounds get beat up pretty quickly and no longer function/load as well. Safety on and chamber empty is pretty safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louu Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If you or anyone you know reloads shot shells they can make you some. Just take fired shells, leave the old primer, stuff the wadding, add some lead, crimp and wallah, dummy rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziebart Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 (edited) If you decided to use loaded ammo pull the charging handle our to prevent you from accidentally loading it. Otherwise brownells had some dummies that were made with real shot so they feel the same. Edited December 24, 2014 by ziebart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc1094 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I made some from spent shells and dowel rod. They aren't the right weight but you could probably put some washers in before the dowel to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomotion Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 Fiocchi (sp) used to make good dummy rounds but I haven't been able to find them in stock. Be careful to remove real cartridges out of the room/area when practicing as their slugs look very similar with the same shell color Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakman Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I just picked up some of these for my practicing -> http://www.ebay.com/itm/321445679168?_trksid=p2059210.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT I wish they were just a bit on the heavier side, but they fit the bill nicely and they're a different color than any of my live ammo, so there's no confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candyman87 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I currently use some made by A-ZOOM but they get beat up. I'm going to be loading some old hulls while leaving the old primers in for safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankC3803 Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I have the Carbon Arms dummy rounds. They are a good value for their intended use. The following is from their website: There are a few things to realize with Dummys in normal 12 gauge hulls. 1. They do not have an infinite life. We have had a few guys send a few back and the shells are completely destroyed. Chambering shotshells, of any kind, will only let them last so long, especially if your shotgun has any alignment issues. 2. Keep them clean. A few we got back were embedded with dirt, in the crimps and the hulls. Putting those in your tube or chamber, no wonder they were not feeding well. 3. Dummys are meant to practice loading primarily, not use for shooting drills and "dryfire" like snap caps. ALL of them will eventually have damage to the rim and primer if you use them in that manner. We seal the crimp, but some gear maintenance, like inspecting the crimps once in a while, is a good idea. We seal them with a clear silicone, which you can easily redo. I have a set of 4 that have been loaded a lot, and they are still pristine, but I don't drop the firing pin on them nor do I chamber them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidgun Posted December 25, 2014 Share Posted December 25, 2014 I have been making dummy rounds using a cheap lee load all unit I bought for $40. However they didn't last as long so I use live rounds more often. I do just use them once or twice and move to the next box. Anything too far damaged goes into oven and under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtremekramer Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 Bought mine from brownelles. Some one recommended them on here. They work great! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gakracker Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I would have to go back and check out the specifics but I made a few for my own use, practising with the coach gun, BUT they should be just fine for the VM also. I left the old primers in so if you want hammer fall protection, well start engineering! I used two lead bullets per round which were inserted into each end of a length of fuel hose. The length was such that it was only slightly snug for the crimp and the slight compression of the bullets in the rubber ends kept things stable and gave reasonable weight. Its great due to cutting some parts length to critical dimensions is not necessary. The cost of these were almost non existent, for me, as these parts are from my normal reloading expendables in the gun and leather room. I use thet rubber hose for making a western holster tensioning devise BUT the hose is a cheap purchase for anyone shopping at Tractor Supply (or an auto supply store). Common sense tells me that it would be no great feat for the laser target folks to develop a system by which we could practice our reloads with a laser unit that would also add dry fire targeting to the practice. If the pistols and rifles already have trigger reset systems to make this possible then shotguns could easily follow, no??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corey Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 I think AP custom has made some dummies for loading practice. I use the older ones from Brownells and they've lasted pretty well over the years. Getting a little beat up and I'm thinking about replacing them soon. I've got a few friends that load shotgun and said they can make them. Just need to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headworked Posted December 26, 2014 Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) Rocky Patel's making some solid aluminum dummy rounds... They are weighted well, hard anodized, an have a plastic insert for primer. I'm not sure when they will be available, but it's in the works... Edited December 26, 2014 by Headworked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropsitos Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I make mine on a lee press. I use actual shot and wads. Currently I use shop paper towels in place of the gun powder. Eventually I think I will find something that I can dispense like gun powder on the press. Crimp and then, with hot melt glue, seal the crimp and fill the primer hole They last a while, though like mentioned, if you chamber them eventually the will fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkface Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I use the ones from CarbonArms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted January 9, 2015 Share Posted January 9, 2015 If you can unload thru the loading port, chamber a dummy round an use live shells. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortBus Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 If you decided to use loaded ammo pull the charging handle our to prevent you from accidentally loading it. Otherwise brownells had some dummies that were made with real shot so they feel the same. Forgive my ignorance, how do you unload the tube on a shotgun without chambering and un chambering each round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziebart Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Normally you can depress the shell catch in the loading port to release a shell from the tube. This works in my SX3 and A400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Forgive my ignorance, how do you unload the tube on a shotgun without chambering and un chambering each round? Depends on the gun, on Stoegers and 1301's you can unload them by depressing the lifter and rocking back the bolt release and catching the rounds one at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Look at the 2nd method to keep them out of the chamber. Both work without dropping the hammer. https://youtu.be/taHlrbV4TkE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullittmcqueen Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Keep in mind that practice loading live rounds will deform the shells slightly and could possibly cause you to have problems loading them during a match. Had a friend experience this because the shells weren't perfectly round anymore. So now we have some shells that we practice with but never use them during a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moltke Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I have the Carbon Arms dummies because they support 3-Gun and have offered great advice on this forum for all things 3-Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTGlass Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I just loaded myself a box of dummies on my PW-800. Once fired Remmy Gun Club hulls, deprimed. Remmy RXP wads with two 20ga. card wads hot glued to the wad base in lieu of powder. Seated the wads & dropped in 1 1/8 oz #8 shot. Crimped. Sealed the crimps & filled the primer pockets with hot glue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roadie3 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 I order a box off brownells. They were less expensive then some of the others I saw plus they carry brownells incredible warranty. http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/cartridge-dummies/action-proving-shotgun-dummies-prod67708.aspx I'll post an update when I practice some reloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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