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Please copy and paste this list in your reply. I added the matches between the last big post. January February March 15-17: Safariland Expedition UML-EMG National Championship, Las Vegas, NV 16-17: Missouri 3 Gun Championship, Versailles, MO 16-17: Rock Castle Run and Gun, Park City KY 21-23: TPC Empire 3 Gun Match, Hurricane, UT 22-24: Superstition Mountain Mystery 3-Gun, Rio Salado Sportsman's Club, Mesa, AZ (Registration on PractiScore during October 1st-20th, 2018) April 5-7, USPSA Multigun Nationals, Universal Shooting Academy, Frostproof FL 13-14: Johnson 3-Gun 2-Rifle Match #1, NRA Whittington Center May 3-5: Vortex Shooters Source 3 Gun, Ft Worth, TX: www.vs3gun.com 24-26: Midwest PCC Championship, Sellersburg, IN 18-19: Johnson 3-Gun He-Man Edition, NRA Whittington Center 3-5, Ohio State 3 Gun Championship, Southington Gun Club, Garrettsville, OH June 21-23 - Smoking Guns Outlaw Multigun Presented by NOV - Casper Wyoming 22-23 Topton 3 man 3 Gun July August 2-4: Wyoming Magpul Governor's Match, Cody Wyoming 3-10: IPSC Rifle World Shoot, Karlskoga Sweden 24-25: Johnson 3-Gun RM3G Edition, NRA Whittington Center 31-Sep1, Pennsylvania 3 Gun Championship, Ontelaunee Rod & Gun Club, New Tripoli PA September 7-8: Johnson 3-Gun - 2-Rifle Match #2, NRA Whittington Center October 17-19: Blue Ridge Mountain 3-Gun, Rockcastle Shooting Center, November December

The working copy is located on Google Drive https://docs.google.com/document/d/1i7rn0rwTHmQM4jsJ9md0870yVp0Xqst96MFLLi1WdOk/edit The UML website also has them http://unitedmultigunleague.com/uml-rules/

Added a couple of UML matches, MedicAJ post, and updated the WY Gov match to Cody WY. January February March 15-17: Safariland Expedition UML-EMG National Championship, Las Vegas, NV 16-17: Missouri 3 Gun Championship, Versailles, MO 16-17: Rock Castle Run and Gun, Park City KY 21-23: TPC Empire 3 Gun Match, Hurricane, UT 22-24: Superstition Mountain Mystery 3-Gun, Rio Salado Sportsman's Club, Mesa, AZ (Registration on PractiScore during October 1st-20th, 2018) April 5-7, USPSA Multigun Nationals, Universal Shooting Academy, Frostproof FL 13-14: Johnson 3-Gun 2-Rifle Match #1, NRA Whittington Center May 3-5, Ohio State 3 Gun Championship, Southington Gun Club, Garrettsville, OH 18-19: Johnson 3-Gun He-Man Edition, NRA Whittington Center 24-26: Midwest PCC Championship, Sellersburg, IN June July August 2-4: Wyoming Magpul Governor's Match, Cody Wyoming 24-25: Johnson 3-Gun RM3G Edition, NRA Whittington Center 31-Sep1, Pennsylvania 3 Gun Championship, Ontelaunee Rod & Gun Club, New Tripoli PA September 7-8: Johnson 3-Gun - 2-Rifle Match #2, NRA Whittington Center October 17-19: Blue Ridge Mountain 3-Gun, Rockcastle Shooting Center, November December

What kind of info are you looking for? https://clubs.practiscore.com/safariland-expedition-uml-emg-national-championship/register

Yes they answered their emails but i don't really have the problem fixed. They said it was due to me inserting a full magazine with the bolt closed. While I may have done that on some of my mags, it wasn't done to all of them. The mags do the same thing with the upper off the gun, and will wiggle free.

Mine shipped with a Glock mag too. I think the catch is slightly too small in mine or something. As the magazine wiggles it will drop out. It was hard to diagnose at first because it was having a lot of fail to feed as the magazine was slightly out of position preventing the bolt from grabbing the round correctly.

Anyone have issues with Glock OEM mags falling out of the CMMG lower prior to hitting the magazine release? All of my mags will except the Magpul brand. CMMG said it was because Glock changed the specs on the mags and to use ETS mags but I've got mags going back a decade and they all do the same. ETS will fall free too.

Safety is a belt and suspenders approach. If a gun on safe falls out of a bucket then there is LESS risk of ND. Note I say less because it is still mechanical and could fail. If we didn't require them to be on safe then the number of guns abandoned off safe would increase. The probability of falling out is still the same so the danger is increased. I don't know if the numbers increased or not. Does USPSA have records of why someone was DQ'd at each match? Do they record these enhanced penalties? Does anyone in a database? I feel like they have increased, but I don't know if it has, and if so by how much. It would also be interesting to compare them across matches to see if equipment choice played a role. For example did the growth of 2011's in multigun change the numbers vs Glocks? Anecdotes: A person on our squad at USPSA MG nats this year got 2 safety penalties when using a borrowed 2011. The number of guns off safe would have been halved if they would have been DQ'd on the first one. Last year there at SMM3G was one person that felt their SG safety was bumped off after dumping it due to the cutouts in the dump bucket. Not sure what actually happened as I wasn't there, but this is to show that not all of them are from pistols, and could potentially be due to dump buckets. Nothing is perfect and people always seem to find out how it was their fault. Dropping guns in buckets goes back a ways https://youtu.be/x5UX9SaB1nI?t=40 . I tried to find the video of when people just put the guns on the ground instead of in buckets, but couldn't find it.

That is a good solution. Right now it seems like there are equal numbers of people that like the niche divisions, and those that want less divisions with more people in them. Currently that decision is delegated down to the MD who can decide which divisions to offer. For example at Surefire last weekend they did not offer the PCC or 2 Gun divisions. If I was running a "major" with 150 or less shooters I wouldn't offer 2x4 tac or open as any firearms used in those divisions are legal in 2x4 open. I may have some pushback from open shooters that don't own a PCC or don't want to fly in with one. As far as I know, no match has required a PCC, but it does make some stages a lot easier. Multigun is very regional and certain areas have set ideas on what is right. Overall it seems with the increase in matches there are less people flying so 2x4 isn't too bad. If we had to fly I don't think 2x4 is very feasible due to the weight limits.

The only issue with too many divisions is truly having a field deep enough to generate real awards. IMHO being the only person in a division is a waste. I agree with the complainant about the frequency of rules changes. It has been difficult to incorporate many clubs/shooters under one rule set. 22lr has been requested by British shooters as they can't use 223.

There is a lot that goes into hosting a major USPSA multigun match and there are few matches that can host it. I think it makes sense to have it at a range and area that hosts an Area multigun match. I don't think I will attend in 2019, but that is not a slam on the match, USPSA, or the range. It just is what it is.

There are a bunch of folks doing so. From what I've seen, rifle/ PCC is most of the stages. A person may be better off if the steel is small to use shotgun, but PCC holds so many more rounds I think it's a wash.

Thanks for signing up. Please check your junk mail folder in case PS sent it there. I know Dotty is busy with Safariland but she has been going through Surefire registrations today so you should see something soon. I dont think she has denied anyone entry before so you should be good to go. You won't be able to squad until you pay though.

And that right there is the crux of the debate to me. Is a DQ, a deterrent, a punishment, and or a way to prevent future unsafe acts due to the shooter being out of sorts that day? Not saying it can't be all 3 but how a person looks at the why we do it changes how they view it and how to handle it.

IHAVEGAS, I am not promoting a penance fee. My comparison to it was how ridiculous it would be. I don't think we are that far away from it with some matches and some of the posts here.