cheby Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, OPENB said: Are they approving AIWB? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, -JCN- said: Does this will allow magnets that aren’t associated with pouches? The rule now reads: "Each magazine must be contained individually within the magazine pouch. Magazines may not be retained through magnetic means." There is no guidance other than that, so I'd think a standalone magnet is fine as long as it's by itself on the belt and not attached to another pouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich406 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 So it looks like you can position your gear anywhere on the belt now? For any division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkaratemonkeyfighter Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I’m a bit confused as to why the flashlight was added ? So you can compete in production with adding a flashlight to your gun but you can’t compete in carry optics if you remove a red dot. add a light- yes remove a sight - no Is this a consistent way to look at the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Rich406 said: So it looks like you can position your gear anywhere on the belt now? For any division? Correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkD Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, -JCN- said: Does this will allow magnets that aren’t associated with pouches? a magnet would be a individually contained pouch as long as just one mag is on it I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 6 minutes ago, OPENB said: Are they approving AIWB? First rule of gun safety, never point a loaded gun at something you do not wish to destroy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Please combine these two threads related to the rules change in one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-JCN- Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, matteekay said: The rule now reads: "Each magazine must be contained individually within the magazine pouch. Magazines may not be retained through magnetic means." There is no guidance other than that, so I'd think a standalone magnet is fine as long as it's by itself on the belt and not attached to another pouch. Just now, DirkD said: a magnet would be a individually contained pouch as long as just one mag is on it I think. Unless they consider a magnet not a pouch because it doesn’t encircle the magazine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted March 5, 2021 Author Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 minute ago, cheby said: Please combine these two threads related to the rules change in one Already requested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 minute ago, -JCN- said: Unless they consider a magnet not a pouch because it doesn’t encircle the magazine? There is no definition of "pouch" in the rulebook. They would have to add that requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkD Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, -JCN- said: Unless they consider a magnet not a pouch because it doesn’t encircle the magazine? i don't think it has to encircle the mag, but I am sure some RO's and MD's will try to bump people to Open over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpYoursPal Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Great changes. Functionally it allows shooters to bring their EDC gear and run it as is without having to register in open. It'll allow Carry optics to really live up to its namesake. Though I do sort of wish they kept the mag pouch restriction for production, at least. It added a little more challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 All these rule changes inevitably bring us to a question why there are different divisions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillChunn Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 If the same gear for USPSA is supposed to be allowed in Steel Challenge, will these rule changes be carried over to that rulebook? REALLY don't want two rigs for two sports that are supposed to allow the same gear. BC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveM Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Ok so who wants to go in business with me making the heaviest damn weapons light on the market. We’ll call it Schuetzen Glocken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, DaveM said: Ok so who wants to go in business with me making the heaviest damn weapons light on the market. We’ll call it Schuetzen Glocken. 12 lumens, but heavy as a mule!! I don't love this change for that reason, but it is what it is. I'm certain a light is in my production gun future. New holster too. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreshfish Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I reached out to USPSA on the effective date of the changes, and it is effective as soon as the rule changes are published and they are publishing them today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 59 minutes ago, BritinUSA said: They also voted on Production to 15 rounds, and something else Both motions failed They failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) deleted Edited March 5, 2021 by SGT_Schultz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreshfish Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 "Allowing the use of a functional mounted light to a firearm that meets division weight and size limit otherwise will allow those members to compete in a division where their firearm is most competitive." For production, you still need to fit within the "BOX", which means you can't really run a a light that's too long and you can't exceed the weight limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 31 minutes ago, cheby said: All these rule changes inevitably bring us to a question why there are different divisions? Because the guns are different? You certainly can't think that moving some mag pouches and holsters around negates an Open gun's technical and scoring advantages. Or do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raztain Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Rich406 said: So it looks like you can position your gear anywhere on the belt now? For any division? I'm confused by this. Rule changes say o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 12 – Removed reference to App. E3 and o App. E3 – Deleted bottom diagram showing equipment position in relation to hip bones "Deleted bottom diagram" ... I assume that means the top diagram is still in place which says "foremost limit for gun... behind the hip bone" Can someone explain? why leave the top diagram at all? Edited March 5, 2021 by Raztain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Raztain said: I'm confused by this. Rule changes say o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 12 – Removed reference to App. E3 and o App. E3 – Deleted bottom diagram showing equipment position in relation to hip bones "Deleted bottom diagram" ... I assume that means the top diagram is still in place which says "foremost limit for gun... behind the hip bone" Can someone explain? You're assuming the highlighted wording is part of the upper illustration. I would not make that assumption. Maybe wait and see what the new E3 looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafreshfish Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Raztain said: I'm confused by this. Rule changes say o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 12 – Removed reference to App. E3 and o App. E3 – Deleted bottom diagram showing equipment position in relation to hip bones "Deleted bottom diagram" ... I assume that means the top diagram is still in place which says "foremost limit for gun... behind the hip bone" Can someone explain? "Appendix D4, D5, and D7 line 12 Change to 'NO' 'Restriction on position of equipment...NO'" The BOD removed the entire restriction on Line 12 including 5.2.7.2 and Appendix E3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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