jrn1975 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I am currently using a Double Alpha Racemaster but I have been having a lot of issues with it since getting the phoenix trinity insert so I am in the market for something different. With the racemaster, I have a ton of gun movement when the gun is holstered. The gun also "sticks" a lot on the draw. The holster worked great when I was using it with an SV grip and insert. I have tried everything to get it working correctly so I think its just time to move on. Has anyone used the Racemaster and then switched to another brand? Pros/ cons? I am currently looking at the CR speed but I am open to anything that works reliably. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Double-Alpha-Race-Master-Alpha-X-Holster-Blocks--P3609.aspx Edited June 19, 2019 by Sarge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrn1975 Posted June 19, 2019 Author Share Posted June 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge said: https://www.shootersconnectionstore.com/Double-Alpha-Race-Master-Alpha-X-Holster-Blocks--P3609.aspx Thanks Sarge.. Yea, I bought the PT grip insert when I switched over to the PT grip. Started out with a lot of sticking which has minimized some but now the gun has an 1/8 in movement from where the dust cover moves away from the holster body when its holstered. IE, the gun moves a lot when holstered. Never had this issue with the SV and SV grip insert. I could try another grip insert.. the one I have is a month old, but at 50 bucks a pop I am starting to think the money may be better spent on a new rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
427Cobra Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I only have experience with a Ghost and the Alpha X, between the 2 the Alpha X is leaps and bounds better in every way, but I went back to using a BladeTech with a Boss hanger, YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacivilian Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 The muzzle support attachment is your friend. It cures all the side to side play in both the alpha-x and racemaster holsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candiru Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I am currently using a Double Alpha Racemaster but I have been having a lot of issues with it since getting the phoenix trinity insert so I am in the market for something different. With the racemaster, I have a ton of gun movement when the gun is holstered. The gun also "sticks" a lot on the draw. The holster worked great when I was using it with an SV grip and insert. I have tried everything to get it working correctly so I think its just time to move on. Has anyone used the Racemaster and then switched to another brand? Pros/ cons? I am currently looking at the CR speed but I am open to anything that works reliably. ThanksHad a Racemaster and Alpha-X and am very happy with the Everglades Magnetic Race Holster. Better adjustability, stability, and much smoother & consistency in the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 hours ago, jrn1975 said: Thanks Sarge.. Yea, I bought the PT grip insert when I switched over to the PT grip. Started out with a lot of sticking which has minimized some but now the gun has an 1/8 in movement from where the dust cover moves away from the holster body when its holstered. IE, the gun moves a lot when holstered. Never had this issue with the SV and SV grip insert. I could try another grip insert.. the one I have is a month old, but at 50 bucks a pop I am starting to think the money may be better spent on a new rig. Sorry, I guess I skipped right over that part. My gun wiggles a little as well in my AlphaX, but never have problems on the draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furrly Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 5 hours ago, candiru said: Had a Racemaster and Alpha-X and am very happy with the Everglades Magnetic Race Holster. Better adjustability, stability, and much smoother & consistency in the action. This .. Hands down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike21STI Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I had 2 generations (old style and universal) of the gugas Ribas holsters but ultimately switched to the safariland 014 holster. It is a smoother draw than I had with the gugas ribas holsters, the gun would sometimes stick on the draw but I haven't had that problem with the safariland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauza45 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Check if the front grip bushing in the grip is rubbing on the holster for the sticking. Take the little barrel and screws out of the front of the grip and try it then. If it does not stick you need to shorten the barrel with a file, just a couple passes is all that is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kk4364 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 I have an older limcat holster, that used to lock in polymer grips but left wiggle room. I recently got a stainless Limcat grip and it took some adjusting but now there is no movement in the locked or unlocked position. And drawing is smooth. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubern Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I have a Ghost holster and I'm very pleased with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I also recently switched to an Everglades Holster. I really like it. This one holster handles all four of my Open guns without adjustment. With the Racemaster and Alpha X I was always having to change out magnetic block to suit the gun I was going to shoot that day. I wish their thigh pad was designed differently, but that is my only complaint. The draw is smoother and quicker than with either of the DAAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted June 21, 2019 Share Posted June 21, 2019 I really want to switch to the MRH when I get my 2011. The only thing holding me back is the fact that I run a 1.5" belt for USPSA, and a 1.75" ELS belt for 3 Gun. The Alpha-X allows me to have a mount on each and then swap the holster depending on the event. Makes it super easy. If I go MRH I either need two of them and a new belt for 3 Gun, or I have one that I'm swapping back and forth and still need a new belt for 3 Gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoyoteMW Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 10:02 PM, lacivilian said: The muzzle support attachment is your friend. It cures all the side to side play in both the alpha-x and racemaster holsters. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 I have tried everything I can think of to prevent 25-50% of my draws with a 2011and PT EVO grip from sticking in an Alpha X. I've spent hours with the gun and insert just putting on and off and I can't reproduce the sticking except when drawing from the holster. I even bought a new insert to see if the first one was defective. No change. The problem seems to be associated with the angle of extraction but minor differences give dramatic sticking results. When it works its great. When it doesn't its a major distraction. Lot of money tied up in this. I just ordered an Everglades MRH. I hope you guys who like them are right. AAARGHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Brooke said: I have tried everything I can think of to prevent 25-50% of my draws with a 2011and PT EVO grip from sticking in an Alpha X. I've spent hours with the gun and insert just putting on and off and I can't reproduce the sticking except when drawing from the holster. I even bought a new insert to see if the first one was defective. No change. The problem seems to be associated with the angle of extraction but minor differences give dramatic sticking results. When it works its great. When it doesn't its a major distraction. Lot of money tied up in this. I just ordered an Everglades MRH. I hope you guys who like them are right. AAARGHH! That pesky little front strap grip screw is what caused all my problems when my Cheely grip was sticking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loudgp Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sarge said: That pesky little front strap grip screw is what caused all my problems when my Cheely grip was sticking. I had the same issue with my akai and the daa. a few passes with a file , shortened the barrel and all was good after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Sarge said: That pesky little front strap grip screw is what caused all my problems when my Cheely grip was sticking. Is that on the gun or the holster? I ask, because if/when I switch from the Czechmate to a 2011, I'm 99% sure I'll be going with the new Cheely E2 Aggressive with their new magwell. And unless I give up 3 gun I'll likely stick with the DAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, clw42 said: Is that on the gun or the holster? I ask, because if/when I switch from the Czechmate to a 2011, I'm 99% sure I'll be going with the new Cheely E2 Aggressive with their new magwell. And unless I give up 3 gun I'll likely stick with the DAA. The gun. The tiny screw with bushing where trigger guard attaches to frame. It seems these are drop in fit for plastic grips but most metal grips are slightly thinner and bushing is too long to let screw heads sink inside the grip width. Screw heads then bind on holster block Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clw42 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 31 minutes ago, Sarge said: The gun. The tiny screw with bushing where trigger guard attaches to frame. It seems these are drop in fit for plastic grips but most metal grips are slightly thinner and bushing is too long to let screw heads sink inside the grip width. Screw heads then bind on holster block Okay, thanks. I'll keep an eye out for that when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 17 hours ago, Sarge said: That pesky little front strap grip screw is what caused all my problems when my Cheely grip was sticking. I completely agree with you. However I have relieved the plastic insert in the area where the grip screw contacts it. Relieving it seems ok because it's only necessary along the top edge of the insert. The lower portion doesn't contact the screw so it can remain to prevent lateral sloppiness of the gun-holster combination. While I'm convinced you are correct, I can't relieve the holster any further and see no reason to do so---except the problem remains even with no contact between the holster and grip screw head. I'm really surprised that DAA hasn't commented on this issue because 2011's constitute a large percentage of the race holster use and steel grips are the current rage (for good reason). My Everglades MRH arrives today so I'll let everyone know how that works. I could have had it earlier because Shooters Connection has one in stock that I could have driven up to get, but stupid me never looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooke Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Ok my Everglades MRH arrived. Holy cow!! This thing is the ticket for a PT EVO grip. Draw is like there is no holster Just like pulling the gun through the air. This is the only experience I have but someone else said it works great with CK steel grip. Caution...it is not for CZ’s. Everglades says that and they are not kidding. I put my Shadow 2 in it and I promise it’s a free ticket to Dairy Queen and even if that doesn’t happen it’s a disaster. Very nice holster that works great with a 2011 PT EVO grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Everglades is built like a tank too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehowell12 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I love my Everglades... no insert blocks, no inserts needed at all for plastic grips, PT, Cheely, SV, Limcat, single undercut, double undercut. if the width of the trigger guard fits, it ships! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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