Hiroshi Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I can't decide between the Dillion RL 550C and the Dillion Square Deal B, I like the Square Deal because of the auto indexed shellplate. To reloaders out there, I would appreciate your inputs what do you guys prefer, Auto or Manual indexed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 If your choices are between those two, I would say the 550, only because it does not use proprietary dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jejb Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I don't know much about those two loaders, as the only Dillon I've ever owned is my 650. But as to the overall question, I'd go automatic. Is a 650 a lot more money than the SQB? The 650 does not use proprietary dies, and is an auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Hiroshi said: I can't decide between the Dillion RL 550C and the Dillion Square Deal B, Depends on what you're reloading ? Just 9mm, .38, .40 minor or .45 ? Go with the SDB. .40 Major or rifle ? Go with the 550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 You could probably also load .40 Major on a SDB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just now, Steve RA said: You could probably also load .40 Major on a SDB. Very true, but you are stuck using the proprietary dies...can't use an undersized die, competition seating die, etc. And, the 550 is built like a tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) On 1/27/2019 at 9:24 AM, Steve RA said: You could probably also load .40 Major on a SDB. Yeah, BUT, you really should have those dies that Really Size the case down, to prevent bullet setback. You load .40 major with a heavy bullet, and fast powder (which you should), and you get any bullet setback - your gun is toast Edited January 29, 2019 by Hi-Power Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmo2011 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 I’d suggest evaluating how many rounds you need to load per week versus how much time you have available and purchase accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 A progressive press without a casefeeder is IMO suboptimal/dumb. Get a 550 or 650. Read Enos' thoughts on the SDB. He does not recommend it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) I had a friend (unfortunately not with us anymore) who loaded on a SDB and was a .40 S&W user who loaded Major - not for matches - on his with 180gr and 4756 powder. Never had a problem with it in a couple of Glocks he used. Loads were for home defense and protection. Case: Hornady Twist: 1:16" Primer: Winchester SP, Small Pistol Barrel Length: 4" Trim Length: .845" BULLET WEIGHT180 GR. HDY XTP Starting Loads Maximum Loads Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure IMR SR 4756 .400" 1.125" 6.1 957 25,200 PSI 6.6 1,018 28,800 PSI BULLET WEIGHT Edited January 27, 2019 by Steve RA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Look at Dillon, despite the SDB being auto index it isnt any faster. When I asked Dillon about it, I was told it had to do with acsess,, was just a bit slower to get bullets and brass in. 550 also gives you, (and you will end up wanting) ability to seat and crimp in steps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshi Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Depends on what you're reloading ? Just 9mm, .38, .40 minor or .45 ? Go with the SDB. .40 Major or rifle ? Go with the 550. Just 9mm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Between the 2, I’d go with the 550, auto indexing is nice but not a big deal, with the 550 once I got my rhythm down, loading 500 rounds an hour was fairly easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Hiroshi said: Just 9mm.. I've been loading 9mm (minor and Major) for 20 years on my SDB. Works great. I can easily load 200 rounds/hour and many claim they can load Many More than that (I take my time, and am Not in a hurry). I'm now thinking of getting a 1050 or 1100 for the priming advantage - only because my arthritis flares up from priming on the upstroke. Other than that, the SDB is all you need to load 9mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I'm the 550 fan boy. If your going to ever load more than one caliber you want a 550. Not sure if the sdb can even do rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 To me this question always comes down to whether you are going to load rifle. I have loaded on both of these presses and for pistol i slightly perfer the SDB because of the auto index. If you think rifle is in your future then the 550 is the way to go. I load 9, 40 major, and 45 on the sdb and have no issues, and have done the same on the 550 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkrispies Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) On 1/27/2019 at 4:15 AM, GrumpyOne said: If your choices are between those two, I would say the 550, only because it does not use proprietary dies. This is the only response I’ve read but I like it. The speed difference between my 650 and 550 is due to the auto brass loader not the auto indexing. I’ve never had a safety concern with the manual index. If you’re only ever going to load something simple like plain jane 9mm and never change it, I suppose the SDB will be fine but I chose the 550 for versatility and have never looked back. Edited January 29, 2019 by jkrispies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustybayonet Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/27/2019 at 7:02 AM, Hiroshi said: I can't decide between the Dillion RL 550C and the Dillion Square Deal B, I like the Square Deal because of the auto indexed shellplate. To reloaders out there, I would appreciate your inputs what do you guys prefer, Auto or Manual indexed. https://www.dillonprecision.com/reloader-buying-guide.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmill87 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I agree with other posters; the 550 offers future flexibility without really sacrificing anything in terms of speed to the SDB. While auto-indexing can be advantageous, the onus is always on you as the reloader to devote your attention to the task at hand. And not for nothing, but I think the 550 does have better resale value than the SDB due to said flexibility (if it comes down to a tie-breaker in your mind, this may tip it) if your needs change later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Purchase the most you can afford (1050/1100 if it's in the budget). Everyone has said this: 550 and up use industry standard dies. ^^^^ That is huge!!!!!!!!! Note: I'm all about producing the best ammo I can in large quantities and auto anything works better for me. I do enjoy the gadgets and working out a better load, but in the end I want a pile of quality ammo to shoot. Edited January 28, 2019 by HesedTech Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Current msrp the 550 is only $50. more than a SD . Yes you have to get dies but a lot more leverage a better maid press (imo) I have both don't use the Sd anymore. Back when the SD was a lot cheaper it made some sense today it does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 One other thing to consider is the size. While I would definitely go with a 550, the SDB is a smaller press, so it takes up less space...but not by a huge amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKnoch Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Any reason to not consider a 650? A 650 with a casefeeder is great. When I decided to upgrade to a Dillon it was between a 550 or 650. I went 650 for Auto index. Only thing to do is pull lever and set bullet. Whatever one you get, I recommend Dillon dies. I had issues with Lee and Hornady sizing dies taking excessive amounts of force to size (yes I lube cases). Switched to Dillon dies and they size easier and I'm getting less rejects when gauging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srrch Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 I would normally say get the most expensive press you can afford. If the 1050 1100 is in your budget, then get it. However, if you only shoot a couple hundred rounds a month, then get the 550. I reloaded on a 550 for many years. It is a great press and will allow you to reload more calibers using standard dies.Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwes Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) One thing to keep in mind is with a 550 you can load rifle as well as pistol, with the SDB it's pistol only. If you reload long enough you'll end up loading for rifle some day. Personally I started out with a new 550B back when they were under $300.00 then got a SDB set up for 45 app for $75.00 and just recently got a 650 set up for 45 and 308 and 223 with lots of extra stuff bullets, cases, powder, strong mount, etc. just to name a few for $1300.00 Edited January 29, 2019 by bigwes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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