3gunDQ Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 You people are way too nice. These headphones are a scam. It’s complete bull$hit. Anyone: Max, Keith Garcia, the rest.... pushing these things, advocating with a strait face that this product “works” is a complete sell out. If you have spent money on this product you are a moondick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 7/23/2018 at 4:56 PM, SlvrDragon50 said: It's definitely paid promotion. It could work, but like Jake said, not enough research out there yet. JJ does a lot of neat technological training though. He had these flickering glasses that blacked out your vision to practice reloading. The same glasses are used by wide receivers at the college level to increase hand eye coordination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 5:38 AM, 3gunDQ said: You people are way too nice. These headphones are a scam. It’s complete bull$hit. Anyone: Max, Keith Garcia, the rest.... pushing these things, advocating with a strait face that this product “works” is a complete sell out. If you have spent money on this product you are a moondick. Why don’t you tell us really how you feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 “Moondick” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_striker Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 12 hours ago, rowdyb said: The same glasses are used by wide receivers at the college level to increase hand eye coordination. Those glasses are used by elite pro athletes at every level where the processing of visual information is involved. They are even used by athletes to improve proprioception as we are constantly using vision to keep ourselves balanced. Take away the vision element while balancing and you improve proprioception. This is empirical. Not snake oil like these headphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 If you want to go the bargain route: Boost Your Brain’s Power With a 9-Volt Battery and Some Wet Sponges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Andreas said: If you want to go the bargain route: Boost Your Brain’s Power With a 9-Volt Battery and Some Wet Sponges I'm really hard-headed. Maybe a 12 volt car battery would help me make GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted December 8, 2018 Share Posted December 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Flatland Shooter said: I'm really hard-headed. Maybe a 12 volt car battery would help me make GM. I can hook you up to 52 volts DC with 2900 amps, if you'd like to try it. I've tried a couple of hundred times, it will get your attention, but it never made me shoot faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jcgatus Posted December 9, 2018 Share Posted December 9, 2018 On 7/18/2018 at 4:01 AM, bluedevil008 said: Is it coincidence that those three just won their respective divisions at IPSC Nats? Interesting... In all reality, those guys have won before without it. Max won the big three in 2014 without it. There are studies and videos of it online by people who were trying to master a musical piece, a marathon runner, and a dancer. It supposedly primes their brain to be receptive. But, i think their daily practice was what contributed to the improvements. I would wear them too and tell people online that i got this good because of this if they were paying me 3k for a fb shoutout. Not sure if thats how much it is. Id rather take Max Michel's shooting supplements and dope up for my next local match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedevil008 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 15 hours ago, Jcgatus said: In all reality, those guys have won before without it. Max won the big three in 2014 without it. There are studies and videos of it online by people who were trying to master a musical piece, a marathon runner, and a dancer. It supposedly primes their brain to be receptive. But, i think their daily practice was what contributed to the improvements. I would wear them too and tell people online that i got this good because of this if they were paying me 3k for a fb shoutout. Not sure if thats how much it is. Id rather take Max Michel's shooting supplements and dope up for my next local match. Hahaha yeah the shooting supplement thing is a stretch. I doubt that will be around for long. At least the Nueroscience is a new concept for consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anbrumm Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I've always wondered how well these would actually work. the concept is cool, but looks like a lack of evidence is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 On 11/6/2018 at 10:55 PM, rowdyb said: The same glasses are used by wide receivers at the college level to increase hand eye coordination. Someone should try out a pair of Senaptec strobe glasses and get back to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 52 minutes ago, Andreas said: Someone should try out a pair of Senaptec strobe glasses and get back to us. nice wordplay on their part for synaptic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rez805 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 hours ago, Andreas said: Someone should try out a pair of Senaptec strobe glasses and get back to us. $350!? Blinking is free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno45 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) On 10/30/2018 at 12:21 AM, telligentgunner said: I have it and use it. I was able to buy one on eBay at a pretty reasonable price. I didn't want to be the guy who missed out on results just because I was a bit skeptical. Top shooters are successful because they take little things in combination with other little things to make them better than other people. What is your opinion now that you have used it a while? Edited December 18, 2018 by Bruno45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telligentgunner Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Bruno45 said: What is your opinion now that you have used it a while? I just use it. Not every day, which I probably should. I have no data for use vs. non-use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno45 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Would love to hear from actual users who arent compensated to say posiitive things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 One of the most memorable teaching points from medical school applies here: "The plural of anecdote is not data". Stated another way, just because a few compensated pros say it works does not mean that it works. Until there is blinded, randomized clinical data, it is bull$hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevadazielmeister Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Bruno45 said: Would love to hear from actual users who arent compensated to say posiitive things Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno45 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 22 hours ago, Balakay said: One of the most memorable teaching points from medical school applies here: "The plural of anecdote is not data". Stated another way, just because a few compensated pros say it works does not mean that it works. Until there is blinded, randomized clinical data, it is bull$hit Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hello0o0o0o Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 There are studies that do show some data that the techniques that halo apply do improve motor coordination immediately after use. But is it any considerable advantage that people should use who are not top athletes? no. and simply because there is no data of what neural electrical conditioning does to the brain long term. In the short term, it does make the brain more pliable to learning but no one really knows what effect it has on long term brain function and health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted December 26, 2018 Share Posted December 26, 2018 Initially I had my doubts but appears its use goes back a bit further than I first suspected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjb45 Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Top competitors are always looking for something that will give them improved performance. Many sports placement is decided by seconds. I would suspect the Hawthorne Effect might play a role in the improvement, how much I would not venture to guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamj Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 It really just feels like they have a lot of money poured intongetting influencers to push their product. I would be shocked if there was an actual tangible improvement. I know in the shooting sports we are gear crazy and some people would do anything to be "sponsored", but this product really soured my opinion of those who shilled it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparten8654 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 On 3/17/2018 at 11:47 AM, Sarge said: https://www.haloneuro.com/get-halo-sport So the original concept that Sarge added a link to is for a civilian version. The systems have been tested for several years by SOCOM to help operators learn faster and obtain physical skillsets at a faster rate. While the project came to light in 2017 its been around a few years .So far there concept is great and it seems like results are happening. https://www.digitaltrends.com/outdoors/navy-seal-teams-testing-halo-neuroscience-neuro-priming-headset/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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