IHAVEGAS Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 9 hours ago, RH45 said: I hit 134 pf on my first try, with Sport Pistol, and noticed they shot a lot softer, but, when I walked down to the target (25 yards) I saw that the bullets were still tumbling. I My 9mm revolver shoots 160's from SNS & Bayou over sport pistol very well, likely closer to 130 pf than 134, have never seen a bullet tumble.Never saw it with that bullet and titegrooup either. For what it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, IHAVEGAS said: My 9mm revolver shoots 160's from SNS & Bayou over sport pistol very well, likely closer to 130 pf than 134, have never seen a bullet tumble.Never saw it with that bullet and titegrooup either. For what it is worth. 128 pf shoots fine. It’s just when I tried to push them up to 132-135pf when they were tumbling. I won’t go to any major match with 128 pf loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 1 hour ago, RH45 said: 128 pf shoots fine. It’s just when I tried to push them up to 132-135pf when they were tumbling. I won’t go to any major match with 128 pf loads. No worries. I've done a lot of fiddling with the SNS & Bayou coated versions and several different powders / load recipes / power factors and .356 vs .357 vs .358 diameter. Never have seen any tumbling with 160's under any conditions. Just a for what it is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 On 12/29/2018 at 12:48 PM, NWfront said: Everglades 124 JHP V2 1.125 AOL 4.15gr SP 1080 fps 133PF Everglades 147RN plated & Xtreme 147RN HPCB 1.135 OAL 3.3gr SP 905 fps (Ev) & 908 fps (Xt) 133PF All 8 shot averages from a Shadow 2 in 45 degree weather using mixed brass and Fed spp. My load is similar to yours, I use 3.2 gr SP with 145 Rn Bayou bullet at 1.135. Todays chrono with TSO was 902 FPS grouped 10 shots in 1.94" at 25 yds in ransom rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 On 4/23/2019 at 9:56 AM, IHAVEGAS said: No worries. I've done a lot of fiddling with the SNS & Bayou coated versions and several different powders / load recipes / power factors and .356 vs .357 vs .358 diameter. Never have seen any tumbling with 160's under any conditions. Just a for what it is worth. The particular bullets I'm working with, are sized .356. A few years ago, I bought some that were sized .357, and in the pistol I was trying to use them in, at the time were more accurate than .356, but, I could only load the .357 bullets in Federal brass, otherwise, I couldn't get them in my Wilson case gauge. I'm getting 1"-1 1/2" groups out of the same brand of bullet, in 147 grain, at 25 yards, out of both of my Xfives. Even though the 160 grain bullets aren't as accurate out of my pistols, they shoot softer. I've been having issues with my hands, and haven't been able to shoot limited, or single stack, with major loads in the last few years. I actually talked to the bullet manufacturer and his first thought was that I had too much crimp. I told him that I don't have any crimp. I'm using once-fired Winchester brass and measured every case for length and have my die set to just straighten the bell. His next suggestion was to switch to Sport Pistol, but, at around 830 fps, I still get tumbling out of 3 different pistols. I guess that I'll just use up what I have left at local matches, running them at 800 fps. I won't take them to a major match without more cushion than that. That said, this thread is about Sport Pistol powder, and I'm REALLY impressed with it. It meters well, is softer, and more accurate than VV310, and when at the chronograph almost all are duplicate readings. I assume the few that are a little lower, or higher are because, according to my scale, the bullets don't always weigh out exactly the same. One of these days, I'll try some Zero, or Hornadays which I've found to be consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I just chronoed 3.3 grains of Sport Pistol, behind SNS 147 grain bullet, in once fired, Winchester brass, and Federal Gold Medal match primers. 15 rounds averaged 900 FPS, with one low one of 897 FPS Fired out of Sig Xfive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Are you loaded long? I get the same numbers with the exact same combo but using only 3.1 grains (9mm 1911). 3.3 was giving me an average of 940.I’m loaded to 1.141”.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitoR Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I load 3.14 gr of SS behind 147 Blue Bullets @ 1.145” and get 890 from my XDm. btw, I get single digit SD. And max spread is less than 20fpsAt 3.3 grains I get 907fps.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjmill87 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Just an FYI, Graf's has 8lbers of Sport Pistol on sale for $128.69, plus it's eligible for 2 different rebates right now ($2 off per pound or Grunt Style clothes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH45 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, cjmill87 said: Just an FYI, Graf's has 8lbers of Sport Pistol on sale for $128.69, plus it's eligible for 2 different rebates right now ($2 off per pound or Grunt Style clothes). Go figure. I just got 16#, last week from Powder Valley for $133 a jug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 yeh but Grafs wont ship to an actual person with an actual job that cant sit at home all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Joe4d said: yeh but Grafs wont ship to an actual person with an actual job that cant sit at home all day I just have it held at the closest distribution center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaot1c Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 More load testing. Today is with with Sport Pistol and RMR bullets. Using my 14.5" bbl MBX PCC and a VP9-L 5" pistol. Two bullet profiles up from RMR - the 124gr JHP and the 135 JFP "Match Winner" MBX PCC RMR 135JFP "Match Winner" - Sport Pistol @ 3.8gn -WIN cases - FedSP Primer - 1.065OAL 1025 1025 1036 1015 1034 1041 1038 1017 1032 1020 Min: 1015 Max 1041 Spread: 26 Average 1028 SD: 9 PF average: 138 RMR 124gn JHP - Sport Pistol @ 4.0gn - WIN Cases - FedSP Primer - 1.065 OAL 1110 1114 1118 1101 1117 1112 1118 1131 1133 1091 Min: 1091 Max: 1133 Spread: 42 Average: 1114 SD: 12 PF Average: 138 VP9-L Pistol RMR 135JFP "Match Winner" - Sport Pistol @ 3.8gn -WIN cases - FedSP Primer - 1.065OAL 1000 1014 1017 1013 1017 1024 1015 1017 1019 1017 Min: 1000 Max: 1024 Spread 24 SD: 6 Power Factor Average: 137 RMR 124gn JHP - Sport Pistol @ 4.0gn - WIN Cases - FedSP Primer - 1.065 OAL 1065 1064 1070 1070 1074 1069 1058 1062 1067 1067 Min: 1058 Max: 1074 Spread: 16 SD: 4 Power Factor Average: 132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Thanks for the info. Those are great numbers. I have a thousand of those RMR JHPs that I can load for my Shadow 2 and TSO at that OAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaot1c Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 (edited) The PPQ is also pretty picky about OAL... So I picked an OAL that will plunk in that barrel to avoid having too many "special" boxes of ammo on the 9mm shelf. The VP9-L was used because I just added it to the collection not long ago. It may not find a home in my USPSA routine but it may just become my IDPA SSP. Edited May 5, 2019 by Khaot1c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 never heard of a distribution center. Dont think I have any in these parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ_the_Butcher Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Just have FedEx or UPS hold it at their location.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 (edited) LMAO,,,, yeh over an hour away. Have no idea how to do that if I wanted, So which button do I push on the order form to get them to do that ? Just what I want to do, take time off work, and drive an hour plus into Richmond during middle of week during non rush hour. Will just order from a company like Powder Valley that actually has a clue. Edited May 6, 2019 by Joe4d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ_the_Butcher Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Both have a delivery manager that you can make changes to shipments arriving to your location, you just create an account online. They will also sent you emails when packages are started to your address. It pretty simple. Just trying to help.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jschweg Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Just an FYI, Graf's has 8lbers of Sport Pistol on sale for $128.69, plus it's eligible for 2 different rebates right now ($2 off per pound or Grunt Style clothes).Sweet. Just ordered an 8. Threw some primers in there for good measure.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmac55 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 rowdy the 147 fp matchwinners are jacketed not plated, just got my first thousand and am going thru the 124s hey i think i saw u like 135s...fyi they just came out with a 135 hard to believe i pay less for these than plated bullets and man oh man are they accurate, cloverleafs at 10 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Oh wow - those ARE a great deal. I'd be all over those if I didn't also shoot a 9mm revolver. As it stands, I need me some ogive for fast reloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denato1 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Just tested a load yesterday. 3.2gr Sport Pistol under a 147g sns RNFP. Shot out of my shadow 2 averaged 905FPS. Out of my Sig X-Carry it was 870. still made PF chrono_2019_05_14_19_46_43.csv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darrell Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Denato1 said: Just tested a load yesterday. 3.2gr Sport Pistol under a 147g sns RNFP. Shot out of my shadow 2 averaged 905FPS. Out of my Sig X-Carry it was 870. still made PF chrono_2019_05_14_19_46_43.csv 497 B · 1 download Do you have any accuracy data to go with what you tested? Does it shoot a 2" group or 6" group? that is important too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwbsig Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Darrell said: Do you have any accuracy data to go with what you tested? Does it shoot a 2" group or 6" group? that is important too. This is what I got using a ransom rest with the same basic load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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