ColoradoNick Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I picked up a DAA Lynx belt with ratchet attachment for my new L/O setup. I really like how snug I can get the belt utilizing the ratchet but I'm not in love with how it feels like it bunches up in my lower back with the inner belt. Has anyone come up with a solution for this? I haven't shot a match with it yet but I guess I will ratchet down before shooting, and then immediately loosen afterwards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 this https://www.koreessentials.com/products/inner-liner-belt?_pos=1&_sid=ecfe673d1&_ss=r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, outerlimits said: this https://www.koreessentials.com/products/inner-liner-belt?_pos=1&_sid=ecfe673d1&_ss=r Excellent thank you. Before I order that, has anyone tried cutting their inner belt so it does not overlap, by maybe 5-6" underneath where the ratchet is? This would hold the outer belt in place vertically while also not bunching up as the ratchet was tightened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, ColoradoNick said: Excellent thank you. Before I order that, has anyone tried cutting their inner belt so it does not overlap, by maybe 5-6" underneath where the ratchet is? This would hold the outer belt in place vertically while also not bunching up as the ratchet was tightened? For anyone else wondering I went ahead and tried this with an extra inner belt and it works perfectly! Edited August 17, 2023 by ColoradoNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuz Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Why not use the ratchet belt without an inner belt? As long as the belt is secure, you don’t need to use an inner belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 Yes, but an outer belt without an inner belt must go through, I believe, 2 or 3 belt loops to be legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted August 18, 2023 Author Share Posted August 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, dapribek said: Yes, but an outer belt without an inner belt must go through, I believe, 2 or 3 belt loops to be legal. Yep, the inner belt also holds it more secure vertically. I’ve basically cut the inner belt so it clears my belt loops at 5 and 7 oclock by about an inch. This leaves the gap in the middle of my back at about 6”. No more bunching and it feels very secure . Only downside would be the inner belt by itself doesn’t work (if you need a belt to actually hold your pants up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul B Posted August 18, 2023 Share Posted August 18, 2023 I also have two ratcheting belts and the inner belt is a real uncomfortable problem bunching up. I believe the rules could allow the outer belt without an inner belt because the ratcheting belt can be very very secure. "The belt or the inner belt or both must be either securely fixed at the waist or secured with a minimum of three belt loops." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrydoc Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 So you want to change the rule because you can't fix a very minor issue for yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tt350z Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just dont stick the hook onto the loop of the innerbelt. Thread the hook portion under the loop so it slides when you ratchet the outerbelt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, terrydoc said: So you want to change the rule because you can't fix a very minor issue for yourself? Read 5.2.3 I shot a match with the shortened inner belt and it functioned perfectly. Edited August 21, 2023 by ColoradoNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrydoc Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, ColoradoNick said: Read 5.2.3 I shot a match with the shortened inner belt and it functioned perfectly. Whats your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1911 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 10 hours ago, terrydoc said: So you want to change the rule because you can't fix a very minor issue for yourself? I didn’t see anything about him wanting to change a rule. Looks like he is saying the wording of the rules allow it to be done the way he described, and is looking for verification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, terrydoc said: Whats your point? Uhhh…. It’s very clearly legal in the rule book, and part of the reason I made this post to begin with? I was reporting back it functioned appropriately in a match environment. You understand this is a forum to share ideas and you are not required to participate right? No one here was waiting for your input. You didn’t have to even read it. I hope your day gets better Edited August 21, 2023 by ColoradoNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 back in the day we had belt keepers.. Baasically a strip of leather with a button. Regular pants belt when on,, gun belt went over that and the three keepers just buttoned them together... Then the velcro came out.. The velcro doesnt bunch if you dont tighten the outer belt and it just ends up where it ends up. The inner belt doing the basic tight duty. That being said I just bought a 1.75" much heavier than their EDC belts NEX belt. to use as a gun belt and just running it IDPA style and threading my stuff on in the AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 hours ago, terrydoc said: Whats your point? Not sure what your point is. He asked if someone had tried something. He then tried it himself and reported back that it worked within the rule set. You know, how the forum works. He also mentioned nothing about changing any rules. But thanks for the constructive addition to the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 11 hours ago, ColoradoNick said: I shot a match with the shortened inner belt and it functioned perfectly. I did this for my 2-Gun/3-Gun belt upon discussions from another thread. I have considered doing this to my USPSA belts but I just have not found the need as of yet. I have considered switching to that DAA Lynx belt for USPSA, and if I did I would definitely choose that Ratchet option. The DAA Lynx belt looks like it would be easier to fly to matches with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dapribek Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I ordered and have used the Kore inner belt and it completely soled the uncomfortable bunching problem recommend it highly!! https://www.koreessentials.com/products/inner-liner-belt?_pos=1&_sid=ecfe673d1&_ss=r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timido Posted September 2, 2023 Share Posted September 2, 2023 Don't Velcro the inner belt to itself. Put it underneath itself so it kind of slides . Put outer belt on and tighten with latch. No more bunching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 What is it about the Kore inner belt that avoids the bunching problem? I checked the website but it is not obvious from the pictures. Does it still use velcro for the inner/outer belt interface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I run the Linx fairly tight before ratcheting and put the ratchet behind my holster. The Lead Devil inner belt I use is pretty thin since you don't need the rigidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 I thought in an older post someone had taken a section out of their inner belt and replaced it with some HD elastic and Velcro. This connects the ends but the elastic takes up the slack and slides underneath. Actually Nicks is easier as long as it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoNick Posted September 17, 2023 Author Share Posted September 17, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, ddc said: What is it about the Kore inner belt that avoids the bunching problem? I checked the website but it is not obvious from the pictures. Does it still use velcro for the inner/outer belt interface? I actually ended up ordering one of these and used it in a match today, I really like it! It has a short 4-6” section that’s thin and more flexible. Set the Lynx up so it’s tight without ratcheting and give it just a few clicks. It worked perfectly. Edited September 17, 2023 by ColoradoNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrvip27 Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 4 hours ago, ddc said: What is it about the Kore inner belt that avoids the bunching problem? I checked the website but it is not obvious from the pictures. Does it still use velcro for the inner/outer belt interface? As, ColoradoNick mentioned, it basically has a section that allows it to bunch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 15 hours ago, mrvip27 said: As, ColoradoNick mentioned, it basically has a section that allows it to bunch up. Gotcha, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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