matteekay Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 4 hours ago, dsa said: Outstanding! Can't say it better than that. I use 3.1 grains for my 9mm load and I literally couldn't get it to throw less than perfect without messing with the meter. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuckinMS Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 How does it compare to E3? Cleaner, or softer shooting? I am looking to place a powder order soon and try to get 24 lbs per order. I can't stand having little jugs lying around partially used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGOTGLOCKED Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 13 hours ago, jschweg said: Forgive me if this was answered already, but how well does this meter in the Dillon since it's an extruded powder? Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk About through my first bottle, no issues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewski Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I got a bottle of SP and finally got a chance to run a load over the chrono. 3.0 grains SP, 160 grain SNS Casting .356 bullet, COL 1.145 (+/- .003), mixed shot-to-hell range brass I shot this out of my new, super groovy Gen 5 G34 10 shots @60 degrees F Avg: 878.9 ES: 25 SD: 7.0 PF: 140 I was looking for a PF of 130 or so for minor, so I need to crank this down to 2.9 and see what happens. This is a very small sample (I was really trying to get my optic dialed in for tomorrow and just threw up the chrono for fun), but this is softer than my 3.2 grain SP and 147 grain Blue Bullet load. However, both are clean and accurate, with an edge to the .356 bullet - five shots in a nickel sized group at 9-10 yards off-hand. If I didn't have 15 lbs of e3 to use up, I'd be stocking up on SP! Nice for 9mm and although I didn't chrono it, 3.2 grains under a 160 .358 BBI coated bullet in .38 spl was nice, clean and accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Brewski said: I got a bottle of SP and finally got a chance to run a load over the chrono. 3.0 grains SP, 160 grain SNS Casting .356 bullet, COL 1.145 (+/- .003), mixed shot-to-hell range brass I shot this out of my new, super groovy Gen 5 G34 10 shots @60 degrees F Avg: 878.9 ES: 25 SD: 7.0 PF: 140 I was looking for a PF of 130 or so for minor, so I need to crank this down to 2.9 and see what happens. This is a very small sample (I was really trying to get my optic dialed in for tomorrow and just threw up the chrono for fun), but this is softer than my 3.2 grain SP and 147 grain Blue Bullet load. However, both are clean and accurate, with an edge to the .356 bullet - five shots in a nickel sized group at 9-10 yards off-hand. If I didn't have 15 lbs of e3 to use up, I'd be stocking up on SP! Nice for 9mm and although I didn't chrono it, 3.2 grains under a 160 .358 BBI coated bullet in .38 spl was nice, clean and accurate. hmmmmm... I've been using the Blue Bullet 147 (which is actually a 150+) but I've been curious about the heavier bullets. Might have to give the SNS Casting 160 a try. If you don't mind: What were you loading prior to the SNS 160 and was there anything "interesting" about making the switch? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IGOTGLOCKED Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) As difficult as this has been to find I just scored another jug from the same lot as my previous jug. How is that for luck! Edited February 25, 2018 by IGOTGLOCKED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Quick Sport Pistol data:Glock 34125gr BBI TC profile54 degrees, overcastRange pickup mixed brass3.7gr Sport Pistol1081 hi994 lo1047 average87 es25 sd3.8gr1095 hi1054 lo1065 average41 es12 sdThe 3.8 will be my new load. Very soft impulse, cooler, and notably more accurate than Titegroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Thank you for that data and for not getting in a tizzy about a sd greater than 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 26 minutes ago, rowdyb said: Thank you for that data and for not getting in a tizzy about a sd greater than 20. At 21 SD, a small black hole opens up and promptly consumes your gun. That’s why we care so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: At 21 SD, a small black hole opens up and promptly consumes your gun. That’s why we care so much. REALLY?! It's amazing any revolver still exists... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpssrh Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 @wtturn Thanks for the data from your Glock 34. What COL did you use for that truncated cone bullet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtturn Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 @wtturn Thanks for the data from your Glock 34. What COL did you use for that truncated cone bullet? 1.133 OAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_RAD Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 15 hours ago, rowdyb said: Thank you for that data and for not getting in a tizzy about a sd greater than 20. Easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 16 hours ago, wtturn said: Quick Sport Pistol data: Glock 34 125gr BBI TC profile 54 degrees, overcast Range pickup mixed brass .... 3.8gr 1095 hi 1054 lo 1065 average 41 es 12 sd The 3.8 will be my new load. Very soft impulse, cooler, and notably more accurate than Titegroup. Interesting that data is nearly the same for my E3 load with a 125, same OAL, and brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpssrh Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 @SCTaylor Will you please tell us... How many grains of E3? Which 125 grain bullet and profile? Which pistol? Velocity? Thank you, sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCTaylor Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 [mention=63805]SCTaylor[/mention] Will you please tell us... How many grains of E3? Which 125 grain bullet and profile? Which pistol? Velocity? Thank you, sir. Don’t want to derail this thread but... 3.7grn e3, 1.145, 125gr Blue Bullet TC, 1076fps avg - 134.4pf. Out of Stock 2’s. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPORTER72 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 On 6/17/2017 at 10:05 AM, R1_Demon said: I looked at the link provided above and went to Alliant's website for loading data in .40. They don't show a min or max. They only show one number. How do you know if that is a starting number with the powder or the max charge? ???. Seems kind of stupid on their part. I contacted alliant and they said the listed weight is max. To take 10% of so starting load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Correct. Any time you see load data listed with just one charge weight, that's from Alliant or anyone else, that's the max load, and you deduct 10% for starting load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Menamy Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I finally got a load worked up that I'm happy with. Its walking a fine line and I may be better off to bump it up, but for now I think its fine. Thoughts? Created: 04/26/18 22:25Description: 9mm production Notes 1: 1.155‚ OALNotes 2: 3.1g of ASPDistance to Chrono(FT): 10.00Ballistic Coefficient: 1.000Bullet Weight(gr): 147.00Temp: 60 °FBP: 29.89 inHgAltitude: 100.00# FPS FT-LBS PF6 882 253.96 129.65 5 877 251.09 128.92 4 869 246.53 127.74 3 879 252.24 129.21 2 873 248.81 128.33 1 882 253.96 129.65 Average: 877.0 FPSSD: 5.2 FPSMin: 869 FPSMax: 882 FPSSpread: 13 FPSShot/sec: 0.7True MV: 878 FPS I did have 10 Shots but I may have been to quick on it and they had an error. I still think 6 is plenty to go off of, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I did have 10 Shots but I may have been to quick on it and they had an error. I still think 6 is plenty to go off of, though. Your load is almost identical to mine and your results are right in-line with what I recorded(I posted my full results earlier in the thread). Mine were a hair faster, but I’m also 5000+ feet higher so I probably get a little more burn.If you’re worried about the chrono, you can always throw a heavy 3.1 or shift to 3.2. I doubt you’d feel the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac_Menamy Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, matteekay said: Your load is almost identical to mine and your results are right in-line with what I recorded(I posted my full results earlier in the thread). Mine were a hair faster, but I’m also 5000+ feet higher so I probably get a little more burn. If you’re worried about the chrono, you can always throw a heavy 3.1 or shift to 3.2. I doubt you’d feel the difference. I may bump it up to 3.2. But with a standard deviation of 5.2 and a low of a 127 PF I think ill be just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matteekay Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Mac_Menamy said: I may bump it up to 3.2. But with a standard deviation of 5.2 and a low of a 127 PF I think ill be just fine. Right on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Out of a Shadow 2. 147gr plated RMR rnfp bullet. Mixed range brass. Win spp. 1.100" oal. 3.30gr Sport Pistol. This gives me a very very consistent 131pf and consistent groups. No bad smell or weird residue after shooting. Gun doesn't get branding iron hot after a lot of shooting. No goofiness at the press. Only negative is the 8# jugs are big so they took up more space in my powder storage area. Edited April 28, 2018 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vnboileau Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 33 minutes ago, rowdyb said: Out of a Shadow 2. 147gr plated RMR rnfp bullet. Mixed range brass. Win spp. 1.100" oal. 3.30gr Sport Pistol. This gives me a very very consistent 131pf and consistent groups. No bad smell or weird residue after shooting. Gun doesn't get branding iron hot after a lot of shooting. No goofiness at the press. Only negative is the 8# jugs are big so they took up more space in my powder storage area. How's the accuracy compared to 124/125 bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 43 minutes ago, vnboileau said: How's the accuracy compared to 124/125 bullets? I don't know. I haven't shot 124/5 grain bullets in 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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