stuey93 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 welcome to the cz club. i add plunger to my safety after i fixed some cz worker monday workmanship.What are you referring to when you say plunger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, stuey93 said: What are you referring to when you say plunger? i add plunger to safety spring like on glock extractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey93 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 i add plunger to safety spring like on glock extractor.Got a pic or possibly a part# and where to get it? ThanksLike this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, stuey93 said: Got a pic or possibly a part# and where to get it? Thanks Like this? yes. i have small bench lathe and mill so i can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 8 hours ago, stuey93 said: Sloppy Safety My safety has some wiggle in it allowing me to partially engage while firing. Is this a detent spring issue or the spring that rides in the detent on top of the safety? Or something else entirely? Thanks There are 'extra power' springs available that will make the safety engagement/disengagement more positive; google it you'll see several write-ups about this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaris Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 8 hours ago, yigal said: no i don't have pic.. i can send only by mail. very nice work. yes .sloppy work it's CZ trade mark. i fixed this problem on few tso guns with jig that i made.probably somebody without any mech. skills assembled this guns. on few of them both holes not concentric .but if u go down from, 10mm dia to 9.5mm it will go easily( on slides with not concentric holes) today i use this part from 303 ss .best results. Thank you Sir. Problem is not on 10mm/9.5mm area, problem on diameter .500" BTW, I looked concentricity of holes-it is OK, no issues there. There is bump on the border between hole of barrel and hole of recoil spring bushing. This bump generated by barrel bushing and I see it on both of mine TSs. I tried to make picture-I hope you can see what I am talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaris Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Here is final drawing of my plug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yigal Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Palmaris said: Thank you Sir. Problem is not on 10mm/9.5mm area, problem on diameter .500" BTW, I looked concentricity of holes-it is OK, no issues there. There is bump on the border between hole of barrel and hole of recoil spring bushing. This bump generated by barrel bushing and I see it on both of mine TSs. I tried to make picture-I hope you can see what I am talking about. exactly .that what u need to fix. basically it's almost the same like mine with few differences . i made 10mm dia. hole for recoil spring with 90deg wall and 60 deg chamfer. and i use larger dia. guide rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey93 Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 There are 'extra power' springs available that will make the safety engagement/disengagement more positive; google it you'll see several write-ups about this topicThank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmaris Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 hours ago, yigal said: exactly .that what u need to fix. basically it's almost the same like mine with few differences . i made 10mm dia. hole for recoil spring with 90deg wall and 60 deg chamfer. and i use larger dia. guide rod. Thank you Sir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just got mine and it is the "new" type with the very Shadow 2 like grip/frame. I took off the thumb rest. I removed the slide stop and installed one of the pins. I changed the fiber from red to green. I rotated up the mag release paddle from 3 to 2 o'clock. I replaced the clear buffer with one of the same thin thickness but of the black material. I replaced the installed recoil spring (I think it is the softest of the 3) with a stock Shadow 2 recoil spring. Next will be magwell and mag extensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaded605 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Just got mine and it is the "new" type with the very Shadow 2 like grip/frame. I took off the thumb rest. I removed the slide stop and installed one of the pins. I changed the fiber from red to green. I rotated up the mag release paddle from 3 to 2 o'clock. I replaced the clear buffer with one of the same thin thickness but of the black material. I replaced the installed recoil spring (I think it is the softest of the 3) with a stock Shadow 2 recoil spring. Next will be magwell and mag extensions.What is the advantage of the pin only and no slide stop? I’m a lefty so I don’t care one way or the other, just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Pin will not lock the slide open on last shot. Slide stop will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaded605 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Pin will not lock the slide open on last shot. Slide stop will.But what is the advantage of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Some shooting disciplines and / or classes require slide to not lock open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 (edited) If you use the thumb rest there is less in your way, to me that's the biggest. The second is there is now nothing internally to interact with the mag or rounds, reducing the chances of a possible jam, mag not dropping or inadvertent slide lock. This is entirely a uspsa Limited gun for me, there is zero reason to have a functioning slide lock lever. Gun set up is very personal, don't take what I do as gospel. Next is getting enough mags and base pads, a different magwell and some grips cut to fit. Edited February 27, 2019 by rowdyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi_Im_Vinh Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, rowdyb said: If you use the thumb rest there is less in your way, to me that's the biggest. The second is there is now nothing internally to interact with the mag or rounds, reducing the chances of a possible jam, mag not dropping or inadvertent slide lock. This is entirely a uspsa Limited gun for me, there is zero reason to have a functioning slide lock lever. Gun set up is very personal, don't take what I do as gospel. Next is getting enough mags and base pads, a different magwell and some grips cut to fit. I would ditch those factory spings included with the gun and purchase a CGW or CZC recoil spring variety pack and go from there, one thing I can add is if you decide to go with thin followers be prepared to tweak your mag spring some so gun doesn't go into a weird half partial slidelock after last round goes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaded605 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 If you use the thumb rest there is less in your way, to me that's the biggest. The second is there is now nothing internally to interact with the mag or rounds, reducing the chances of a possible jam, mag not dropping or inadvertent slide lock. This is entirely a uspsa Limited gun for me, there is zero reason to have a functioning slide lock lever. Gun set up is very personal, don't take what I do as gospel. Next is getting enough mags and base pads, a different magwell and some grips cut to fit.That makes sense. Mine is for USPSA too, I just didn’t know what the point was. I’m left handed so the slide stop and thumb rest are equally useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Hi_Im_Vinh said: would ditch those factory spings included with the gun and purchase a CGW or CZC recoil spring variety pack and go from there, one thing I can add is if you decide to go with thin followers be prepared to tweak your mag spring some so gun doesn't go into a weird half partial slidelock after last round goes in. This is my second TS variety gun, the first being an old IPSC Standard, before they were even called a Tactical Sports. I have so many different springs around in all my spares that yes, the stock ones are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 4 hours ago, igolfat8 said: Some shooting disciplines and / or classes require slide to not lock open. Not heard of any sports that require it. Seems to be personal preference. Mainly, in USPSA Limited, if you run the gun dry you already screwed up bigtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaded605 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Not heard of any sports that require it. Seems to be personal preference. Mainly, in USPSA Limited, if you run the gun dry you already screwed up bigtime.I think IDPA requires reload from slide lock, but yeah, never heard of no slide lock required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, loaded605 said: I think IDPA requires reload from slide lock, but yeah, never heard of no slide lock required. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhowell309 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 I think IDPA requires reload from slide lock, but yeah, never heard of no slide lock required. Reload from slide lock? Or, you get penalized for a magazine being discarded and the gun was still loaded. Even if the magazine was empty. I can retain the magazine and freshen a still loaded gun. Or I can reload a fully empty gun and discard the empty magazine. Usually that would be from a slide lock situation but it is not required specifically. I’m asking more than stating as fact since my knowledge in IDPA is limited. USPSA is different and it looks like I’m having a garage sale with magazines from 0-5 rounds laying all over the course without every seeing a slide locked (or empty) gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regor Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 What power recoil spring are folks running for ~170 PF loads? I'm not entirely sure which one is in mine now because I bought it used, but I have the CGW tuner pack that I can fool around with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, regor said: What power recoil spring are folks running for ~170 PF loads? I'm not entirely sure which one is in mine now because I bought it used, but I have the CGW tuner pack that I can fool around with. 11# here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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