Corey Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Thought about putting this in the 9mm forum, but since its primarily for my new PCC, here it is. For those who are loading their own (or probably just shooting their production stuff), what bullet weight are you using. It may just be a "try it and see" setup but looking for a trend of lower recoil/dot movement. With center fire rifle stuff, heavier bullets tend to yield more recoil as well. What are people seeing in their PCCs? I'll probably be in the 130-140pf area I'd imagine, but are you using lighter stuff like 115s or heavy 147s? Link to comment
mikeor70 Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 My pistol load works great in my PCC. I'm loading 124gr Berry's RN on 3.2gr of Titegroup. I'm averaging 136pf with my G34, but haven't checked it with a 16" PCC. Recoil is light and I was able to tamp it down, slightly, with an AR10 spring and buffer. I'm hearing that the 147s are actually shooting well in the 16 inchers. Link to comment
BD Williamson Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I have been using Berrys 147gr behind 2.5 to 3.0 of Titegroup and its pretty nice. Running JP bolt and Capture spring also. Link to comment
OPENB Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I'm using 124 FMJ loaded with 5.0gr. of Power Pistol, just to use up a pound I have. 10 shots averaged gave me 132PF thru a 10.5" Faxon barrel. The same load in my Glock 34 w/ factory barrel was 122PF, & in my DW PM9, 120PF. I like 147s in my minor pistols, so I'll shoot this load in my PCC until the PP is gone. Then I'll use some Titegroup. Link to comment
CZ85Combat Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I started out using my production load, 125 Blue Bullet, 3.9gn N320, @ 1.110 oal. 130pf in my CZ SP01 Shadow. It ran well but with 148pf in my Wilson Combat AR9 G. I am now using 147gn Blue Bullet with 2.5gn N310 @ 1.140 oal 130pf. This load is a lot softer shooting. Link to comment
Patrick Scott Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I have been using my PRD load of 3.0 N320 behind a 147 BBI at 1.110", 130pf in the CZ, mid to upper 140s pf out of the 16" PCC. Loaded some with 2.8gr to get 130pf out of the PCC. Not much a difference, not sure its worth it. Might try some different powders. Link to comment
2011BLDR Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 in my MPX I run : 125Gr MG JHP 5.4Gr N340 1290 fps 161PF Link to comment
Les Snyder Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 am switching from Precision Delta 147 jacketed to 135 coated Bayou... 3.9 of WSF seems to work well in my G34 at a 130 power factor Link to comment
wgj3 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 So, I'm curious about all this too. Where does the recoil come from in a PCC? Rhetorical question...I think, but someone may correct me. It seems that a great lot of the recoil in my JP GMR is the result of the massive bolt and SCS reciprocating back and forth. What would make that "feel" the lightest and still guarantee reliability? I started off running factory Rem UMC 115gr stuff(made 148PF in PCC at TN). It ran great. Ran out of the 1000rds or so that I had and grabbed some of my SS minor ammo that is 147gr SNS coated with Bullseye to make about 132PF out of my 5" 1911 at GA State a few weeks back. That felt as good or maybe even better. Would one of those loads cause the bolt to move slower and thus feel better? Is there some convention that we can apply to reloading for PCC? Heavy bullets at lower speed for softer feel? Or lighter bullets at higher velocities for better feel and maybe with a little gas to "work" the comps? What say you all? Link to comment
CZ85Combat Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 17 hours ago, wgj3 said: So, I'm curious about all this too. Where does the recoil come from in a PCC? Rhetorical question...I think, but someone may correct me. It seems that a great lot of the recoil in my JP GMR is the result of the massive bolt and SCS reciprocating back and forth. What would make that "feel" the lightest and still guarantee reliability? I started off running factory Rem UMC 115gr stuff(made 148PF in PCC at TN). It ran great. Ran out of the 1000rds or so that I had and grabbed some of my SS minor ammo that is 147gr SNS coated with Bullseye to make about 132PF out of my 5" 1911 at GA State a few weeks back. That felt as good or maybe even better. Would one of those loads cause the bolt to move slower and thus feel better? Is there some convention that we can apply to reloading for PCC? Heavy bullets at lower speed for softer feel? Or lighter bullets at higher velocities for better feel and maybe with a little gas to "work" the comps? What say you all? Heavy bullets with a fast powder(N310,E3, Nitro100). loaded specifically for your PCC. The load you are looking for would only make 118-122 Power factor in a production pistol. Link to comment
blaster113 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 For now Im running my Production load; 125 gr BBI with my last remaining Solo with a PF of 155+. Figure I'd keep the velocity high so the gun runs better. So far the rifle is 100% Link to comment
412 Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I am running 115 MG round nose with 3.5 of titegroup at 1.15 aol, this load goes 1140 from a 16" barrel for 131pf. All my normal production and single stack loads do 148 to 156 in my PCC. Link to comment
DocMedic Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 115 Poly TC behind 3.4 or 3.6 grains of Titegroup at 1.15 , that load runs in all my 9mm guns. Link to comment
chendersby Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Berry's 124 TC 5gr autocomp 1.130oal 135 pf out of 14.5 inch JPGMR Link to comment
JRM83 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I wonder if a moderate charge of a slow powder with a light bullet would generate enough gas to work the comp in a PCC. Something along the lines of 7-8gr of HS-6 with a 95-115gr bullet. Link to comment
DocMedic Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 10/11/2016 at 6:24 PM, JRM83 said: I wonder if a moderate charge of a slow powder with a light bullet would generate enough gas to work the comp in a PCC. Something along the lines of 7-8gr of HS-6 with a 95-115gr bullet. 8.7 of HS behind a 115 is my 9Major load for my Open gun. So yea that will work a comp lol. Link to comment
JRM83 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 2 hours ago, DocMedic said: 8.7 of HS behind a 115 is my 9Major load for my Open gun. So yea that will work a comp lol. How does that load run in a carbine? Link to comment
Patrick Scott Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 4 hours ago, JRM83 said: How does that load run in a carbine? I havent shot that Major load in my PCC, but I did toss some 115gr Major loads across the chrono just for fun, which it wasnt. The trigger reset was so violent(AR platform) that it actually hurt my finger and the recoil was way more than you would want to shoot our sport with. Link to comment
hcf1976 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) ATI 9mm Carbine Using 135grn BBI with 3.1 of Etr7 at 1.150 oal with Nerd muzzle break very soft and very accurate. 16"barrel Edited October 14, 2016 by hcf1976 Link to comment
Nick S Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Im using Freedom Munitions 147 gr RN in my 14.5" GMR13. I have not chrono'ed it yet. Very soft shooting, relaible and accurate. 25 yd zero drops 8" at 100 yds. Link to comment
Marshal82 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 What OAL are you guys able to run. I have a Faxon and a JP barrel and depending on bullet shape I have to load them no more than 1.110. Xtreme plated bullets seem fine at 1.145 OAL Any coated (Hi-Tek, or polymer) I've found wouldn't seat fully and had to load short to an avg of 1.100 to pass plunk test on the barrel. Link to comment
Nugget Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 That surprises me about the jp. I use 124 grain pd jhp's and 147 grain bbi's loaded out to 1.155 and they plunk fine. The jp is stainless steel so you could easily throat ream it to suit your needs. Link to comment
Rolex Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Bayou Bullets 124 gr True Blue 4.6 gr- also used in my 1911 so its standardized- Link to comment
lucas Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 On October 15, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Nick S said: Im using Freedom Munitions 147 gr RN in my 14.5" GMR13. I have not chrono'ed it yet. Very soft shooting, relaible and accurate. 25 yd zero drops 8" at 100 yds. I,m running the same with my SBR and my pistol. They both performed the best over the 115gr and 124gr during Bill drill testing. Link to comment
Big Dog Howie Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 I didn't see anybody loading for a CZ Scorpion carbine,I have one and looking for a load for it Does anybody have one ? Link to comment
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