cactusbrew Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have browsed around and haven't seen a thread discussing limited class optics, so I figured I would post it up. This last year, I shot limited with an aimpoint red dot and wanted to know what other non-magnified optics guys are using and using well. I have seen Eotechs and even some trijicons, so is there anything else out there people are using? If you are using a non-magnified optic, what is it, what reticle are you using, and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v1911 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I have a 3-4yr old Primary arms red dot. The multi gun stages I've shot have for the most part been very short range with just a few shots over 100yds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamge Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 They talk about some 1x options on this podcast: http://3gunshow.com/2015/04/08/3gs-006-james-casanova-of-team-carbon-arms-and-element-multigun-on-competing-in-3gun-nations-factory-division/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael1778 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I suggest another forum search. You'll find conversations like this one (among many): http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=212201 I used "Burris 1x" as my search string, so I did cheat a little. I knew some of the prior discussions. But keywords like Limited and Optic were in the thread titles. I hope we have information that you find useful. We've had a few chats this year. In particular, the Burris offering has had big conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbrew Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 THanks Mike. I guess my search-fu is weak today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punished Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I use a t1 right now. I just ordered a vortex viper for my handgun and am curious about giving something that small a shot on the rifle as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 EOTech. The large circle is very fast for close range stuff and the 1 moa center dot is still fine enought for longer stuff. All the matches I shoot max out at 200 yds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry weeks Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Just used the new JP J-Point with 65 min. circle and 1 minute dot. Worked great, took a bunch of weight off my gun compared to the EOTech I was using. Sits low so I took the cheekpiece off the stock and saved a bit there. Worked fine. I messed up my sight picture on the 275 - 300+ targets at Gen III and was too old and slow so I ran out of time on the 385 target but the sight worked great. Dot didn't "flare", stayed sharp. Only complaint is the adjustments are still for the close range pistol sight so zeroing at 300 yds. takes some very, very small movements of the allen head screws. Just had to be patient and move them very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParaLarry Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 You might want to also check: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?/topic/190955-New-Vortex-Spitfire/page__view__findpost__p__2112183 I prefer the Spitfire etched reticle as the reflex dots are oblong starbursts due to astigmatism. Sent from my reloading bench using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have been using iron sights for several years, using a variable iris that closes down to .035 on my iron sights I was able to continue with irons as I got older, but now things (like the front sight) are getting too fuzzy. Tried an $600 Eotec, the dot(s) just were not crisp enough for long range, 300+. Tried a $700 Aimpoint, the dot turned into a diagonal line or smear when I put on safety glasses. Tried the Leupy DCD, the mounting system sucks, and the add on illumination modual did too. Tried the Burris AR-1X, just could not sort out or use the reticle. Now using the Vortex Spit Fire with good results. DCD etched reticle with daylight visable illumination in both red and green (or black non illuminated). Good solid mount, only thing you have to pay close attention to is getting the focus correct. I think the Spit Fire is a keeper! jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) I use an eotech when I shoot a dot and it is OK. I got to look at the new trij MRO at pro am....really sweet. Should be out soon. I would give it some consideration. Especially for <$500 with the mount. Edited September 14, 2015 by Lead-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon49erfan Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have been using iron sights for several years, using a variable iris that closes down to .035 on my iron sights I was able to continue with irons as I got older, but now things (like the front sight) are getting too fuzzy. Tried an $600 Eotec, the dot(s) just were not crisp enough for long range, 300+. Tried a $700 Aimpoint, the dot turned into a diagonal line or smear when I put on safety glasses. Tried the Leupy DCD, the mounting system sucks, and the add on illumination modual did too. Tried the Burris AR-1X, just could not sort out or use the reticle. Now using the Vortex Spit Fire with good results. DCD etched reticle with daylight visable illumination in both red and green (or black non illuminated). Good solid mount, only thing you have to pay close attention to is getting the focus correct. I think the Spit Fire is a keeper! jj Are you me? Thats the same exact progression I took and moved from one to the next for the same reasons. I actually liked the Burris but after using it at RM3G and MGM Ironman, I realized the center dot did a good job of making long targets disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StravIs09 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 In what world is the DCD daylight visible? i think you were joking. but if you take off the illumination module it allows to you to mount it with a 30mm ring- thus solving the mounting issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 In what world is the DCD daylight visible? i think you were joking. but if you take off the illumination module it allows to you to mount it with a 30mm ring- thus solving the mounting issue Not sure who you meant this comment for... The Vortex Spitfire IS daylight visible... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bishop414 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Eotech currently. But looking forward to the new Burris 1x next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Loopy prismatic with no illumination in a custom milled Seekins ring. It took a bit of getting used to not having a red dot, but I am quite content with it now. It is tough as all get out, tiny center dot, and just works well with my vision and the way I like to shoot. I don't miss the illumination, thought I would, but I will take that super small crisp center dot over anything with any kind of bloom or the faintest hint of offset. I don't need or want any kind of BDC or secondary hold over points. Plus I figure with everyone moving to whatever the next cool guy optic is, I should be able to pick up a back up or 2 on the cheap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbrew Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have been using iron sights for several years, using a variable iris that closes down to .035 on my iron sights I was able to continue with irons as I got older, but now things (like the front sight) are getting too fuzzy. Tried an $600 Eotec, the dot(s) just were not crisp enough for long range, 300+. Tried a $700 Aimpoint, the dot turned into a diagonal line or smear when I put on safety glasses. Tried the Leupy DCD, the mounting system sucks, and the add on illumination modual did too. Tried the Burris AR-1X, just could not sort out or use the reticle. Now using the Vortex Spit Fire with good results. DCD etched reticle with daylight visable illumination in both red and green (or black non illuminated). Good solid mount, only thing you have to pay close attention to is getting the focus correct. I think the Spit Fire is a keeper! jj This is exactly what I was looking for. I have been using a red dot, have tried a friends eotech, and am glad to read of others progressions. I think I might swing by the store and see if I can finger a spitfire. You also cannot beat the price point. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cactusbrew Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 I use an eotech when I shoot a dot and it is OK. I got to look at the new trij MRO at pro am....really sweet. Should be out soon. I would give it some consideration. Especially for <$500 with the mount. The MRO looks like it'll be great competition for the aimpoints, especially with a sub $500 price. The only thing aimpoint has at that price point is the M2 and PRO. This could be a great sight on a home defense weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I have been using iron sights for several years, using a variable iris that closes down to .035 on my iron sights I was able to continue with irons as I got older, but now things (like the front sight) are getting too fuzzy. Tried an $600 Eotec, the dot(s) just were not crisp enough for long range, 300+. Tried a $700 Aimpoint, the dot turned into a diagonal line or smear when I put on safety glasses. Tried the Leupy DCD, the mounting system sucks, and the add on illumination modual did too. Tried the Burris AR-1X, just could not sort out or use the reticle. Now using the Vortex Spit Fire with good results. DCD etched reticle with daylight visable illumination in both red and green (or black non illuminated). Good solid mount, only thing you have to pay close attention to is getting the focus correct. I think the Spit Fire is a keeper! jj Are you me? Thats the same exact progression I took and moved from one to the next for the same reasons. I actually liked the Burris but after using it at RM3G and MGM Ironman, I realized the center dot did a good job of making long targets disappear. I just wish the iron sights still worked, but my eyes won't let them... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltdmstr Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Prismatic in LaRue mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoKimberDave Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I got a good deal on a Spitfire and needed something for a 12.5" lightwieght rifle. Threw it on and LOVE it. Will never go back to a red dot. The SF is very crisp for me. It's the perfect non magnified reticle. I also prefer green illumination, which it has. I often don't use illumination on a bright day with white plates and cardboard. Have only shot it once in a match, but can't wait to shoot more. Have shot it a bit at the range. I love the warranty and couldn't be more satisfied. Paid like $200 for it. Red dots now seem clunky. Haven't tried the Burris, but would certainly like to. Love these prism sights! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Primary Arms. Dot is very round and the sight works very well. I have used the dots for some time and have been very pleased. Tough to beat and very good folks to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntenseImage Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Spitfire is $199 on PSA right now Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Does the spitfire really have a 3 MOA center dot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jadeslade Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Depends on your eyes. If you have astigmatism and or cataracts-tough to deal with. If you don't plain vanilla iron sights are good. Unless you're over 40 and have lost accommodation. I have new, expensive eyes and my Colt SP1 c. 1972 goes blammo on the 400 yd gong every time. A1 sights. Different shooters preferences are because their eyes are different. I think a trip to SHOT is the only way to check out all these sights at one time. Unless you have a super gun store near you that stocks all these things. Don't know of one offhand, but somebody might. If your eyes are good, I love iron sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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