MattBurkett Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 What moron changed open to a limited 10 shotgun sport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke8401 Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think that's just a IPSIC rule? David E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think that's just a IPSIC rule? David E. Nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 (edited) It's a USPSA rule too. I enjoy outlaw multi-gun and USPSA pistol matches - that is all I have to add. Edited October 11, 2011 by DyNo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 It's a USPSA rule too only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpspeed Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 What do you mean Matt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 It's been like that forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I'd ask the current President, then talk to your AD to get it changed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyNo! Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 It's a USPSA rule too only. Agreed. I'd ask the current President, then talk to your AD to get it changed! That's a good question to ask. The USPSA President appears to enjoy shooting Outlaw multigun and I'd be interested in hearing his thoughts. I'd assume that the A6 AD is a fan of Outlaw multigun as well. The problem is fixing itself though. There are a wide variety of outlaw multigun matches to choose from for those who would like to shoot them more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako92S Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 What moron changed open to a limited 10 shotgun sport? IPSC General Assembly decided to change it on vote which we (big shotgun regions)lost. Now box fed open SG can use only 10rd magazines and tube fed can hold 14 rds. Maximum speed loading device can hold 6 rds. There is also length limit on open SG as well 1320mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 It has never changed....the limit in Open Shotgun has always been 10+1 in the gun to start. As has been mentioned time and time again........ LET OPEN BE OPEN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Anderson Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 What moron changed open to a limited 10 shotgun sport? Holy cow Matt, how long has it been since you shot a USPSA match? It's been that way for well over 10 years. Haven't been around long enough to know if it's always been 10+1. I'm hoping to get it changed with the new rule book. I'd say talk to your AD, but I doubt you need to. Chris already knows his way around a Multi Gun match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 10+1 when I last shot open and that was 2004.----------Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 LET OPEN BE OPEN! I'm hoping to get it changed with the new rule book. I'd say talk to your AD, but I doubt you need to. Chris already knows his way around a Multi Gun match. Sounds like a good idea to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 This is one of 2 reasons I dont like USPSA scoring for multigun. Im currently shooting a Saiga and use AGP mags but if I want to use surfire or drums then thats my choice in open. I also dont like power factors in multigun. I am transitioning to 9mm and dont have to worry about minor. This goes hand in hand with the debate about one ruleset for multigun. Im fine with one set, as long as they are IMG style. Not USPSA or some other weak sister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Are we going to get rid of the 170MM restriction too? We should keep it 10+1. Let USPSA be the ruleset where you actually have to reload in Open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sako92S Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Are we going to get rid of the 170MM restriction too? We should keep it 10+1. Let USPSA be the ruleset where you actually have to reload in Open. Do you need to reload your AR-15's also? Is there mag capacity restrictions also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 USPSA has no mag restrictions for rifles whether they be open or otherwise. As to the comment about IPSC rules, think about how much sense it makes that all of these IPSC regions who can not shoot rifle or shotgun have the same vote on amendments to rules that regions where rifle and shotgun matches are held. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Religious Shooter Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Do you need to reload your AR-15's also? Is there mag capacity restrictions also? Nope. No reloading needed for rifle. In Open, right now you once in awhile have to reload your pistol and for shotgun you generally have to reload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Are we going to get rid of the 170MM restriction too? We should keep it 10+1. Let USPSA be the ruleset where you actually have to reload in Open. Open is Open, not Limited 10, for shotgun or anything else...If you want to do a 14 round tube, why not? 20 round drum? sure! No reason not to get rid of the 170mm rule for pistol either... RM3G did it several years ago. Why? to promote the TRUE meaning of Open! If someone wants to come up with a beta mag for their 2011, go for it! jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynn jones Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 free open now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 (edited) Are we going to get rid of the 170MM restriction too? We should keep it 10+1. Let USPSA be the ruleset where you actually have to reload in Open. Im just saying if you look at the large large matches and club matches in my neck of the woods none use USPSA. There is a reason. IF you want to reload lets make the max mag capacity 10 for everything. That would be really fun wouldnt it? Then it turns into a reloading contest. Edited October 13, 2011 by tnek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benelli2 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 USPSA has a purpose we need to be a part of IPSC, but no need to be more restictive than the rules they have in IPSC, free open, I am pretty sure a modified division shotgun in IPSC can hold more rounds than a USPSA Open, hmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentG Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 USPSA has no mag restrictions for rifles whether they be open or otherwise. As to the comment about IPSC rules, think about how much sense it makes that all of these IPSC regions who can not shoot rifle or shotgun have the same vote on amendments to rules that regions where rifle and shotgun matches are held. Never thought of that. I think USPSA wants to get as much control of multigun as it can though because of the money involved. Thats just my opinion and personaly I like the way IMG scores, the open class for shotguns means open. The weight of shells will limit any kind of race. The xrail is one example, I have not shot one but have talked to a couple people who have and the X rail has the drawback of weight. I also am glad that as long as I shoot 9MM or bigger I dont have to worry about minor or major or pistol division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMedic Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Are we going to get rid of the 170MM restriction too? We should keep it 10+1. Let USPSA be the ruleset where you actually have to reload in Open. And screw over anyone that uses a Xrail for open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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