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Is a draw and one shot drill helpful for competition

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On ‎8‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 3:59 PM, Hi-Power Jack said:

Wow.

0.95 seconds is very good.

Yes, that has to help.

BUT, if you can do that consistenly, on call, then I'd move on to

learn another skill necessary for shooting well.

How are you currently classified?

I so some one shot dills at the start of my training but as I tend to not get a good grip on the gun when I know I'm only shooting one shot I then advance it to two then three and so on making sure that I can maintain my focus.  

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I do practice it, now more so to get a good grip on the gun .9 - .95 is about my average.

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eh, I agree with the rest of the guys who say draw + 2 would be better practice as you can look at your draw + 1 shot time (on the timer), and also keeps you honest with a good grip for the 2nd follow-up shot. You can get a decent draw+1 time just from indexing on a "not so good" grip, but that second shot will let you know if your grip is rock solid.

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There has to be a purpose to the drill. Are you practicing seeing the front sight? Initial grip? Draw? As long as you're working on something the practice is ok. 

 

When I shot a lot of trap, I'd see people shoot a whole box on a station as "practice". I need to practice the straight aways, or hard left's or hard rights. Strangely enough, by shell #17 or so, they'd start hitting them with authority and they'll think their "practice" was paying off. What they were actually doing was just developing a rhythm at that one station. Unfortunately, they weren't practicing what happens in a round of trap. Once they moved to another station their rhythm got thrown off and they were back to where they started. 

 

Point is, if you practice draw, 1 shot, holster. draw, 1 shot, holster,  you're training yourself to draw and fire only 1 shot - which is not what you do during a match. 

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how many match stages do u shoot that require u to draw and shoot one round ? Sure timer will record that first shot, but probably alot more effeciant to draw shoot and do some kinda drill of a few rounds.
I had a triangle drill in my yard. 
Three static steels.
At 15 yards a box with an old ladder in front acting like a bianchi barricade.
5 yards and to the left a box,,,   5 yards and to the right a box.
At buzzer draw lean around barricade ding ding ding. Charge forward right or left, ding ding ding. then charge sideways while reloading ding ding ding.
This is a realy good drill,  you practice draws, shooting around a wall, transitions,  movement,  planting, reloads while moving. ETC.. Id set my timer on par time and make it go faster and aster.
In a typical USPSA stage
You draw once.   you transistion about 12-16 times.
Setting for the shot , transitions, and second shots will save u more time than a lightning draw. 
Think about it,,  Smoking hot grand maste rextroidinare is hitting first shot in what ? about .85 ? Smuckatelly Bob like me can do 1.20 all day long.. I can push it on a close target and hit about .95..   So what I can gain a tenth on a 20 second stage ?
Movement, planting , transitions, reloads, double taps will pic you up way more time.
Biggest time saver is the movement into a position, plant and shoot.

 

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Agree with Joe4d you will only perform one draw per stage, while it matters I have always felt that transitions are going to be the real factor on most stages.

 

I will work on draws during the start of my dry fire and before working on reloads but usually don't practice a draw with one round in live fire. I look at live fire practice the same as the match, draw once during the run make it as fast and smooth as I can and take some time after when I am looking at my overall performance to see if that could have been better and how much difference it would make.

 

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On 1/14/2018 at 10:47 PM, Joe4d said:

how many match stages do u shoot that require u to draw and shoot one round ? Sure timer will record that first shot, but probably alot more effeciant to draw shoot and do some kinda drill of a few rounds.

 

as someone else mentioned earlier, i think it depends on what you are trying to work on. I used to almost always do 2 shots (as I posted above a year or so ago), but I just don't do whole lot of live fire draws-only anymore, and when I do it's a more specific situation, like a draw to 15-20 yard mini-popper followed by movement, or draws while stepping into a box and engaging a partial.

 

I still work on my draw a couple minutes every day in dry-fire, but since just about every live-fire drill has a draw in it, I can just look at those times to see how I'm doing.

Edited by motosapiens

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