zhunter Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) There seems to be an aversion to them, but.... What is the problem with shooting turtle targets? I have shot Florida Opens and have no problem with them. Edited January 22, 2009 by zhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 I don't mind them. Not sure I'd want to abandon the "Metric" version to use the Turtles exclusively, but they're a challenge and fun to shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Every little bit of PC that works its way in...pushes tradition aside And I very much despise anything PC! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhunter Posted January 22, 2009 Author Share Posted January 22, 2009 And I very much despise anything PC!Jim And this is a surprise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 i like 'em for rifle...but that's about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasOPM Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 The aiming point is different, and there is no head area- other than that, it is just another target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I personally enjoy the smaller area, makes me aim for a change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I couldn't care less if we shot at paper plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 The A zone shape doesnt match the shape of the target. IE, aiming center mass of the target isnt the same as center mass of the A zone. This is a little off on the metric also so I have a habit of aiming a little higher than center mass which puts my poa center mass of the Azone. On the turtle target the A zone tapers towards the top. The turtle would be better if the A zone was the same shape and center mass of the whole target. All that being said after getting the PA sectional COF's and seeing turtles I bought a bunch and praticed with them exclusively for a month. Now I really dont care one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Every little bit of PC that works its way in...pushes tradition aside And I very much despise anything PC! Jim It must be something about gentlemen named Jim --- Jim Norman would agree with you.... :roflol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Personally I like them ---- but I prefer the Metric's..... Just a traditional guy, I guess.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sestock Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 They are great in enviroments that have high rain and other types of weather. You can bag them and the heads don't droop down. As for shooting, an A zone is and an A zone. Just shoot for the cent of the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Nik, you beat me to it. I have a strong dislike for the Turtle Target. I think it has to do with my upbringing. We were taught not to shoot at anything that was neither food or a threat. I don't eat turtles nor do I feel threatened by them. So should we call them "Stop Signs"? I'd answer that is also a bad idea as we all abhor the people that shoot street signs. This leaves us with the Metric target which should now that IPSC has abandoned it be renamed the USPSA Target or the USPSA Classic or... This target represents exactly what the origins of the sport harken back to, defensive use of a handgun in situations where such use would be proper. People that are saying we are shooting at 'representations of people' seem to have no problem with SASS where they take on a persona of a good guy or bad guy and shoot at targets that look for all the world like a silhouette of Yosemite Sam. As for just shooting at the center of the target, the IPSC target doesn't have the A-zone centered and if laid on the side at a 90, you can't tell which end to shoot! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skizeks Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 There seems to be an aversion to them, but....What is the problem with shooting turtle targets? I have shot Florida Opens and have no problem with them. Just keep that thought and you will do fine with them The aiming point is different, and there is no head area- other than that, it is just another target. The aiming point is different, because it is a different target! I personally enjoy the smaller area, makes me aim for a change Aiming is good. Over rated, but good. One day I will learn that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I'm with Jim. Politically correct crap for PC's sake. IPSC I can see using them, USPSA hell no. I hear they make good fires if you stack them up in a fire-pit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I kinda like 'em. After the Nationals and Area-2 had a fair number I've decided that I'm going to buy a box and use them for practice since they're smaller. It should make our Metric targets look huge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I like both of them, especially when both are used at matches on different stages. As mentioned above they are much better in the rain and with clam shell type activators as there is no 'head' to get all floppy. And as well all know there's nothing worse than a floppy head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I usually run one stage with them at our monthly matches. (Six stage match). I don't have strong feelings one way or another, they are just another target and kind of fun once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 really interesting when there are no-shoots or hard cover associated with the target. My brain understands rectangular shapes or parts of such a little better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMS42 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 And I still miss the old "Item" and "Option" targets. I really liked the Item targets as the "A" zone was narrow and made people slow down a bit and actually aim at the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Surfer Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Keep it real guys. Turtles cant shoot back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open17 Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Keep it real guys. Turtles cant shoot back http://www.freakingnews.com/Turtle-Gun-Pictures-36416.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiny Warrior Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 As mentioned above they are much better in the rain and with clam shell type activators as there is no 'head' to get all floppy. And as well all know there's nothing worse than a floppy head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 I have a strong dislike for the Turtle Target. I think it has to do with my upbringing. We were taught not to shoot at anything that was neither food or a threat. I don't eat turtles nor do I feel threatened by them. You sir, obviously, have never been on the receiving end of a turtle attack, I still have nightmares man! You barely have time to shout out "They're coming right for me!!!"......light a cigarette, load some .308 match rounds and watch a season of "The Unit" ....before they are all over you...it ain't pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted January 22, 2009 Share Posted January 22, 2009 Now that's funny right there! tell me, did you have time to build the rifle as well??? Seriously, the POS Classic is NOT any better in the rain, there is a significant portion of the target that stands above the side anchor points. With the Metric you have two choices, one is to cut off the upper A/B AKA the Head, or you can simply invert the target. As for flip up targets, the Metric target is demonstrably better. The full height of the main body of the target is supported, on the Classic only about a third of the target height is secured to the target sticks. I still wonder why the powers that be didn't just cut off the upper A/B zone and be done with it for international competition. If the size of the A zone is the big whupp, we could have altered that, we really didn't need a whole new shape. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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