Malak Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Looking to get a dedicated 22lr upper receiver for my AR, cause DAMN 223 has gone up. Does anyone own one that runs well? or can make a suggestion on one that will? thanks in advance for the suggestions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 You just hold on about 2 weeks and there will a really nice new toy to play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 (edited) Ciener is the best conversion device IMHO. It drops right in in place of your regular bolt carrier assembly. You can get 30 round skinny mags or 27 round full-profile mags from Black Dog Machine at better prices than the original Ciener mags. Mine runs like a raped ape on el cheapo WalMart Federal bulk pack ammo. They are accurate enough for close-range practice, but not as accurate as with a dedicated .22 barrel because of the freebore and the fast rifling twist (you really want something >1:12 for .22LR to be really accurate). If accuracy is important to you, a handful of companies offer dedicated .22 uppers built around modified Ciener kits and real .22LR barrels... Model 1 Sales springs to mind. On important point: if you have a muzzle brake on the gun, it will fill with lead very quickly (inside 1000 rounds) and be the devil to clean out. I only run my Ciener kit in a rifle with an A2 flash hider. The barrel should also be thoroughly cleaned before you revert to .223 ammo. HTH Edited January 17, 2008 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Round_Gun_Shooter Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I like my Ciener kit also but never run lead. I use CCI Stingers and have not had a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Hello: How about a Ruger 10/22 with all the goodies? Put the same scope that is on the AR and you are ready to go. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHELLFISH17 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Malak, it was nice meeting you and Ty at Tiger valley last weekend and congrats on you win. I use one of these http://www.kuehlprecisionfirearms.com/ , it is set up similar to my 3-gun rifle, he will make them however you want and they are a dedicated upper so just put it on your lower and go. My McCormik trigger won't fire consistantly with the walmart federals so I just bought a cheap lower just for the 22. It is fun and a very usefull training tool. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HI5-O Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 A friend has the Model 1 dedicated upper and uses Blackdog Machine 27rd mags with his and seems to run fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek45 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I sold my CIENER to a guy at my gunclub. Figured I could buy another from Brownells. Brownells and Midway have been back-ordered for several months. Now I use a 10/22 with a trigger job, and a red-dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M118LR Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Malak, I use the M261 22LR conversion kit in my AR. It works fine and it is CHEAP practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike.45 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Listen to Tim !! My ceiner firing pin broke after about 100 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 You just hold on about 2 weeks and there will a really nice new toy to play with. Tim, No secrets! Do tell. In the meantime, I love my CZ (not CZ-USA) V-22 upper. When I get home, I'll be ordering some of the new Black Dog 25 round mags for it! Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hello: How about a Ruger 10/22 with all the goodies? Put the same scope that is on the AR and you are ready to go. Thanks, Eric Eric, I use a 10-22 that's in an MPI thumbhole stock. The feel is similar to my AR, the scope is about the same height above the bore (see-through rings) and have reliable 30 round mags. The only thing is the mags are released like an M14 not an AR. Using the 1/2 size targets from Charley Myers, it's good, fun, inexpensive practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I like my Ciener kit also but never run lead. I use CCI Stingers and have not had a problem I never run "bare" lead either... always plated (or whatever the golden color is on those bullets). They still lead up the comp. I would try Stingers, but they are a bit pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 So far my CZ V-22 is working great. I'm ordering the new Black Dog mags today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Here is the BEST .22 AR type firearm. This stock is made by Nordic Components and takes the standard 10-22. It feels EXACTLY like an AR and the scope mount rail is EXACTLY the same as a flat top. I know it looks a bit higher, but trust me it is the same! Now you can have it all!! The reliability of a 10-22, cheap magazines that hold 25, 30, 50, and it takes ANY stock and Free float tube that fits an AR. Tim Finaly let me post it! I have shot about 1000 round through it so far and am ABSOLUTELY SOLD!!!! Here art a couple of Pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianATL Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Pricing?? Anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GentlemanJim Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Tim makes some COOL stuff I predict this will be a winner! Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUBL Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Seems that the cat is outa the bag. This is the one I've been shooting.....almost identical to my CTR-02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Damn it Tim....where were you guys when i bought an rb two years ago.....that thing looks great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I love my CZ (not CZ-USA) V-22 upper. When I get home, I'll be ordering some of the new Black Dog 25 round mags for it! +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek45 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Here is the BEST .22 AR type firearm. This stock is made by Nordic Components and takes the standard 10-22. It feels EXACTLY like an AR and the scope mount rail is EXACTLY the same as a flat top. I know it looks a bit higher, but trust me it is the same! Now you can have it all!! The reliability of a 10-22, cheap magazines that hold 25, 30, 50, and it takes ANY stock and Free float tube that fits an AR. Tim Finaly let me post it! I have shot about 1000 round through it so far and am ABSOLUTELY SOLD!!!! Here art a couple of Pics. Link ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobob Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Now you've got me! I may go for one of these before I get a Masada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nphd2000 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I'm interested in picking up one of those puppies! Do tell. Where can one be had? A friend of mine picked up a spikes upper and loves it, but this looks interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Tim, That looks awesome! I'm glad to see what it looks like! Good luck at the SHOT Show with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blcouch Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 consider another one sold here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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