Rich406 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Looks like 2011, 1911s, minor power factor. Pretty much everything but frame mounted optic and comp allowed… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touji Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 It’s a travesty they didn’t add major PF to this. There is so little difference from current CO for this to make sense. It makes more sense to allow SAO guns in CO and maintain CO accessory rule set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 While I would have rather seen them rolled in with carry-ops, glad to see this is happening. Or at least I guess this is happening, is this anything official from USPSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touji Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I believe the notes OP posted are from the meeting minutes today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 So is this provisional, or proposed or what? Or is it an official division as of right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I found under multi gun rule appendix D6 https://uspsa-docs.b-cdn.net/rules/App D6_v3.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touji Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, RJH said: So is this provisional, or proposed or what? Or is it an official division as of right now? Proposed. I think ADs will be voting on it soon to turn it provisional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, rishii said: I found under multi gun rule appendix D6 https://uspsa-docs.b-cdn.net/rules/App D6_v3.pdf That's the new modified division that apparently was approved here recently. When I saw them adopting that, I figured some version of Sao carryops was going to happen. Hopefully now it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheby Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) It is not going to bring more people to the sport. It will be interesting to see how this is going to affect Open and CO though. Edited December 28, 2022 by cheby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, cheby said: It is not going to bring more people to the sport. It will be interesting to see how this is going to affect Open and CO though. It will hardly affect CO. It will just be populated by the weaklings who can't pull a DA trigger without shanking one in the dirt. We might get a dozen tac-tards nationwide to try it, half of which won't come back because they got smoked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 The Dec 20 BOD meeting minutes indicated they are going to open up a 30-day member comment period, supposedly starting on Dec 28th, to solicit member input prior to the in-person BOD meeting in January. The minutes read like they will be asking for member comment not only on the proposal to add a provisional Limited-Optics division, but also on some proposed changes to Prod and L-10 divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I love it!!! usTTsa Tactical Timmies!!! Laser beams? Oh ya!!! but lil magwell that comes with sig 320s in CO. Your crazy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Just now, Chillywig said: but lil magwell that comes with sig 320s in CO. Your crazy!!! Or you can work on your reloads more so you don't miss them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: Or you can work on your reloads more so you don't miss them Timmies RulE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 I'll never miss a reload with my non functioning weight of a light and lazer beams!!! Please O please can I have a 45 degree offset dot for weak hand shots too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_Chimpo Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chillywig said: I'll never miss a reload with my non functioning weight of a light and lazer beams!!! Please O please can I have a 45 degree offset dot for weak hand shots too? Get a slide racker with a 45 degree picatinny rail and put your offset dot there for extra timmie points Edited December 28, 2022 by Johnny_Chimpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillywig Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Johnny_Chimpo said: Put it on the slide racker for extra timmie points I love it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 4 hours ago, Chillywig said: I love it!!! usTTsa Tactical Timmies!!! Laser beams? Oh ya!!! but lil magwell that comes with sig 320s in CO. Your crazy!!! Now you can use your 320 maxwell without shooting open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans7 Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) I’m all about it. It’ll bring more people to the sport and allows for a popular gun to be competitive instead of it being a severely disadvantaged version of an open gun that only sees local matches. Win/win Edited December 28, 2022 by Hans7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowdyb Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Of the private students I have, 4 of them shoot some form of a 2011 in 9mm with a dot on it. They were shooting idpa CO because they didn't want to shoot uspsa Open. If this becomes a provisional division they'll all be super happy to have another place to compete with a gun, an expensive one, they already own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 (edited) Stupid that they did not include major. They are losing a lot of shooters that I would imagine would put a dot on their 40 Lim gun. Otherwise it is glorified CO and minor open. Edited December 28, 2022 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJH Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Sounds great to me all the pluses of CO and you get to use a gun that people enjoy shooting, instead of have to shoot. Wish it could just be rolled in with carryops, but all the crybabies there that generally say it's practice not the gun, are scared of a gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1BGR Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 Like we really need a new division for the Limited shooters who want to run an optic but are too scared of the big bad open guns to step up. I honestly don't see any reason for this, as all it is going to do is drop the numbers in Limited when everyone throws a dot on their Limited gun. Personally, I honestly don't care about being "competitive", I just want to go out and have fun. If I wanted an optic on my Limited gun, I would either go to CO or Open. Just keep diluting the division numbers with more divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
touji Posted December 28, 2022 Share Posted December 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, N1BGR said: Like we really need a new division for the Limited shooters who want to run an optic but are too scared of the big bad open guns to step up. I honestly don't see any reason for this, as all it is going to do is drop the numbers in Limited when everyone throws a dot on their Limited gun. Personally, I honestly don't care about being "competitive", I just want to go out and have fun. If I wanted an optic on my Limited gun, I would either go to CO or Open. Just keep diluting the division numbers with more divisions. the problem I see is that it wont even be the Limited guys who are throwing red dots on their existing guns since there is no major scoring (hence it doesn’t make sense to cut their existing guns). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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