Gen Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 Just curious for anyone who's flown to a match at Cameo, do you have any tips for airports? Did you fly into Salt Lake or Denver and then drive another 4 hours or was flying into Grand Junction economical? Just planning for October. Thanks Gen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdh821 Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 I shot Big Horn Classic 2021. I flew from Logan Airport to Phoenix to Grand Junction. I didn't have any issues what so ever.. That being said, I'm seriously debating on bailing on Nats this year unless they change venues. Too much attention has been brought to the wrong people and this game isn't worth snagging a felony charge to be made an example of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 It's a misdemeanor, not felony. Not that it makes it much better though. I suspect the org may shift the venue due to the recent negative attention, and the proximity to the elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted June 14, 2022 Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Bdh821 said: Too much attention has been brought to the wrong people and this game isn't worth snagging a felony charge to be made an example of. Yes, involuntarily being a test case is less than ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 its a pretty painless drive from idaho, so that’s what im doing. and then i can bring my mountain bike too and do a little exploring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racinready300ex Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 17 hours ago, BritinUSA said: I suspect the org may shift the venue due to the recent negative attention, I think that's unlikely, at least I would think this late in the game it might be really hard to pull off. I assume there were no issues at 2 gun nats? If that went smoothly, that would be more reason to assume it's not moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackinSD Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 There were no issues whatsoever at 2 Gun Nats, other than those that pulled out of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zincwarrior Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Were there many that pulled out of the matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadaddict Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 33 minutes ago, Zincwarrior said: Were there many that pulled out of the matches? I heard 20+ from a friend working the match. ~125 shot the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, leadaddict said: I heard 20+ from a friend working the match. ~125 shot the match. That’s cute. We had almost twice that number at our state match this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagellord Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sarge said: That’s cute. We had almost twice that number at our state match this weekend. This was 2-gun nationals, so it's a little smaller any way because it's multigun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 7 hours ago, Racinready300ex said: I think that's unlikely, at least I would think this late in the game it might be really hard to pull off. I assume there were no issues at 2 gun nats? If that went smoothly, that would be more reason to assume it's not moving. You have 4 months, lol....I realize we aren't dealing with rocket surgeons on the BOD but I suspect there could be a venue change without a whole lot of drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 There were no issues at Cameo in regards to anything other than the drama others created for no reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 (edited) On 6/14/2022 at 7:52 PM, motosapiens said: i can bring my mountain bike too and do a little exploring. The Mountain Biking in Fruita and GJ is on par with MOAB. If you can stay a couple of extra days. Check out Mary's Loops in Fruita and Lunch Loop in Grand Junction. Be sure to bring a lot of water, and riding early is a good idea if not a necessity. Also have a map. It's easy to get confused on Mary's loop, which could lead to a longer ride than anticipated. Edited June 16, 2022 by Boomstick303 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, Boomstick303 said: The Mountain Biking in Fruita and GJ is no par with MOAB. If you can stay a couple of extra days. Check out Mary's Loops in Fruita and Lunch Loop in Grand Junction. Be sure to bring a lot of water, and riding early is a good idea if not a necessity. Also have a map. It's easy to get confused on Mary's loop, which could lead to a longer ride than anticipated. appreciate the info and advice.... i've been to fruita once and moab many dozens of times. back when I was young we rode the white rim trail in a day. I'm not too stressed about getting lost. I'm hoping that magazine scamdemic causes some good Limited shooters to stay home.... especially seniors..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Bagellord said: This was 2-gun nationals, so it's a little smaller any way because it's multigun How can any Nationals survive financially on shooter numbers in the low 100’s. Unless it was a very expensive entry fee it had to lose money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomstick303 Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, Sarge said: How can any Nationals survive financially on shooter numbers in the low 100’s Even before the magazine issue became a thing, the 2 Gun Nats did not fill up. The year before it had 224 participants. I thought that this would be the last year for this event even before people dropped out. Like you said it cannot survive financially with that kind of turnout. Especially in light that USPSA will be running at a deficit this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Sarge said: How can any Nationals survive financially on shooter numbers in the low 100’s. Unless it was a very expensive entry fee it had to lose money Per the financial statements it appears that most (if not all) the Nationals lose money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_J Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 Cameo is a beautiful faculty. Grand junction airport is serviced by like 2 major carriers… Delta can only get me to Denver or Salt lake at that time of year (before ski season). And either of those is a 4.5hr drive. A MAJOR metropolitan airport within 2 hours of the range really should be a prerequisite for Nationals. Between the magazine issue and the lack of airport access… Cameo is a terrible choice for a Nationals IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_J Posted June 15, 2022 Share Posted June 15, 2022 4 hours ago, leadaddict said: I heard 20+ from a friend working the match. ~125 shot the match. 25 shooters deleted. 11 DQ’s. 113 finished the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dirty_J said: Cameo is a beautiful faculty. Grand junction airport is serviced by like 2 major carriers… Delta can only get me to Denver or Salt lake at that time of year (before ski season). And either of those is a 4.5hr drive. A MAJOR metropolitan airport within 2 hours of the range really should be a prerequisite for Nationals. Between the magazine issue and the lack of airport access… Cameo is a terrible choice for a Nationals IMO. i agree. great ranges in the middle of nowhere suck for an event. but uspsa got tired of vegas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_J Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, outerlimits said: i agree. great ranges in the middle of nowhere suck for an event. but uspsa got tired of vegas... Well. When you choose to have a 20+ stage event.. you’ve kinda limited your options. I’m all for high round count matches.. but I thought 3 days and 18 stages was about perfect at CMP last year. They just need a few more bays, so stages don’t need to be doubled up. But even with that.. I thought last years events were a perfect duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 1 hour ago, outerlimits said: i agree. great ranges in the middle of nowhere suck for an event. but uspsa got tired of vegas... I worked the last nationals in Vegas. My understanding was the desert sportsman club got tired of US PSA. Not the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 That's what I heard as well. Long ago... like dozens of years ago, USPSA said Nationals only broke even if they were full up. I think the 2-gun thing was driven by a couple of people in the org that really wanted it and hoped it would grow, but it doesn't seem to have legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty_J Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 (edited) USPSA needs to look at professional paintball events. A significantly smaller industry that somehow manages to pull off events with far more showmanship and without going broke. USPSA Nationals is an embarrassment compared to the paintball “World Cup” hosted in Orlando each year. Edited June 16, 2022 by Dirty_J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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