USPSA Announces Rules Adjustment For Holster/Mag Pouch Positions

[BritinUSA]

Latest BOD minutes indicate that restrictions on holster/magazine-holder positions have been lifted.

Edited March 5, 2021 by BritinUSA

[jwhittin]

The USPSA newsletter just announced rule changes. "In the February 2021 USPSA Board of Directors Meeting, a few rules were updated..."

 

My question is when do these go into effect? Immediately? Or not until the rule book is updated and re-released?

 

Here are the specific changes to the rules:  
o App. D2-D7, Item 14 – Changed to ‘Yes, must be functional’
o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 12 – Removed reference to App. E3
o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 20, 4th bullet point – Removed ‘Magazines may not be retained through magnetic means.’
o App. E3 – Deleted bottom diagram showing equipment position in relation to hip bones
o App. D5, Item 18 – Maximum single stack weight with empty mag increased from 43 oz. to 45 oz.

[BritinUSA]

USPSA competition rules were adjusted to reflect changes in equipment position requirements for Production, Single Stack, and Carry Optics, as well as the addition of a firearm-mounted flashlight.

In the February 2021 USPSA Board of Directors Meeting, a few rules were updated in the firearm equipment appendices to make placement of pistols and magazine pouches consistent in all USPSA Divisions.  The goal is to make the process easier for members to understand and less subjectively enforced at matches, resulting in fewer competitors moved to a less competitive division for their firearm at registration, and even fewer moved to Open Division because of their holster or magazine pouch position.  This less restrictive change will allow members to use their “every day carry” holster position for Production and Carry Optics Divisions without being moved to Limited or Open where the holster position is less restrictive.

With regard to the same consistent application of division equipment rules, the use of a firearm-mounted light was also approved.  This should also result in fewer competitors being moved to a division where their firearm, usually their defensive firearm, is not competitive.  Allowing the use of a functional mounted light to a firearm that meets division weight and size limit otherwise will allow those members to compete in a division where their firearm is most competitive.

Please note that all other rules including the type of holster, height of the firearm, and distance from the belt have not changed.  

The Single Stack Division weight limit was increased to accommodate a wider variety of factory produced pistols common in the marketplace, specifically in 9mm.

Here are the specific changes to the rules:  

o App. D2-D7, Item 14 – Changed to ‘Yes, must be functional’
o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 12 – Removed reference to App. E3
o App. D4, D5, D7, Item 20, 4th bullet point – Removed ‘Magazines may not be retained through magnetic means.’
o App. E3 – Deleted bottom diagram showing equipment position in relation to hip bones
o App. D5, Item 18 – Maximum single stack weight with empty mag increased from 43 oz. to 45 oz.

[Sdlrodeo]

This should create a bit of conversation...

[fcernese]

For single stack, does this mean my mags can be across the front?

 

Frank

Edited March 5, 2021 by fcernese

[Sdlrodeo]

Let’s see where this conversation goes...

[matteekay]

And after I milled my Single Stack guns, lol...

 

No real complaints from me on these. It feels like we're moving toward merging Production and Limited somewhere down the line. It's nice that I don't have to ruin lights anymore at least, though my half-pound light housing full of lead shot is nice for recoil in Limited.

[vluc]

Across the front, seems okay now, magnets are good for all.  Holster can be almost anywhere now as well.

[vluc]

Just means we need to check if the flashlights are functional as opposed to filled with lead or tungsten.

[Nathanb]

Oh this will be entertaining 

[matteekay]

14 minutes ago, fcernese said:

For single stack, does this mean my mags can be across the front?

 

Frank

 

Yes - the equipment position diagram no longer exists.

[matteekay]

2 minutes ago, vluc said:

Just means we need to check if the flashlights are functional as opposed to filled with lead or tungsten.

 

Yeah, it's like a total 180, lol. It makes sense, though - a light with batteries doesn't add much weight, so it's hard to use it as a de-facto frame weight. Gonna go order a bunch of X-300 knockoffs.

[cheby]

So glad that Limited is my priority these days...

[cheby]

20 minutes ago, Sdlrodeo said:

Let’s see where this conversation goes...

My projection - this thread will be locked by the end of day

[BritinUSA]

Vendors will be happy, sales of angle-adjustable magazine-holders will increase.

[jwhittin]

Why? You think it will get too heated?   My original question hasn't been answered yet.

[matteekay]

Just now, jwhittin said:

Why? You think it will get too heated?   My original question hasn't been answered yet.

 

I have the same question. Is this immediate?

[BritinUSA]

Effective immediately, per BOD minutes

 

Quote

Motion by Area 7, second by Area 3, to change the rules and appendices to update holster and magazine retention positions as specified below. Changes to be effective upon release
Appendix D4, D5, and D7 line 12 Change to “NO” “Restriction on position of equipment...NO”
Roll Call Vote: A1-Y, A2-Y, A3-Y, A4-Y, A5-Y, A6-Y, A7-Y, A8-Y, Pres-Y
Motion carried 2:16PM EST

Motion by Area 3, second by Area 6 to update rules and appendix to update for magnetic retention of magazines
Appendix D4, D5, D7 number 20. Remove restriction on magnet retention Roll Call Vote: A1-Y, A2-Y, A3-Y, A4-Y, A5-Y, A6-Y, A7-Y, A8-Y, Pres-Y

Motion carried 2:20PM EST

Motion by Area 7, second by Area 2 to update appendix D2 through D7 to allow functional flashlights

Appendix D2 through D7 number 14. Change to “Yes”
Roll Call Vote: A1-Y, A2-Y, A3-Y, A4-N, A5-Y, A6-Y, A7-Y, A8-N, Pres-Y

Motion carried 2:33PM EST
 

 

Edited March 5, 2021 by BritinUSA

[-JCN-]

Does this will allow magnets that aren’t associated with pouches?

 

 

[BritinUSA]

They also voted on Production to 15 rounds, and future of L10

Both motions failed

Edited March 5, 2021 by BritinUSA

[ima45dv8]

As someone who sometimes is forced to lock a thread, I can say that I have seen nothing in this thread that would encourage me to shut it down.

Good topic.

[jwhittin]

3 minutes ago, BritinUSA said:

Effective immediately, per BOD minutes

 

Thanks!  I better adjust my gear and get to practice!

[OPENB]

I read the announcement in the Down Range email, which mentions “everyday carry holsters” were approved for production and CO. Are they approving AIWB?

Edited March 5, 2021 by OPENB

[BritinUSA]

7 minutes ago, ima45dv8 said:

As someone who sometimes is forced to lock a thread, I can say that I have seen nothing in this thread that would encourage me to shut it down.

Good topic.

i had already opened a thread in this topic, can these two be merged so the data is in one thread?

[NMBOpen]

Rules have not yet been updated on USPSA website. BOD minutes said effective on release.