chgofirefighter Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 I am using HS6 powder currently with my 9mm Major loads, however I am looking to try something different. A friend of mine recommend me to try aa7, any other recommendations? Thanks guys~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aandabooks Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Shooters World Major Pistol. Tried some with Everglades bullets. Cleaner and softer recoil than HS-6 which has been my powder for 9mm major. Just got in an additional 16lbs. Meters better than AA#7 which I tried earlier this year and didn't like at all. Dirty and leaking powder all over the press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 10 hours ago, chgofirefighter said: I am looking to try something different. What don't you like about HS6 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 WAC for me. I have tried AA7 and HS6 and WAC worked much better for me. They are all different. I would get 1# of several and try them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 47 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: What don't you like about HS6 ? Even though you didn't ask me, I'll chime in. It's dirty at 172PF, doesn't meter as well as others and it makes the dot wiggle on recoil. Why? I have no idea. With WAC, Silhouette, 3N38 and SWMP the dot tracks straight up and down. With HS-6 it wiggles side to side in a circle while moving up and down. It's disconcerting. Right now my go to powder is Major Pistol for anything major. It is very clean, meters like water, and doesn't fill the case so much that it spills when the shell plate indexes. A little does, but not enough to affect anything. MY SDs run around 4.9. I'm not as happy with it for minor loads, unless they are up around 150PF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, zzt said: Even though you didn't ask me, I'll chime in. It's dirty at 172PF, doesn't meter as well as others and it makes the dot wiggle on recoil. Why? I have no idea. With WAC, Silhouette, 3N38 and SWMP the dot tracks straight up and down. With HS-6 it wiggles side to side in a circle while moving up and down. It's disconcerting. Same experience with HS6 and AA7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted December 11, 2019 Author Share Posted December 11, 2019 7 hours ago, zzt said: Even though you didn't ask me, I'll chime in. It's dirty at 172PF, doesn't meter as well as others and it makes the dot wiggle on recoil. Why? I have no idea. With WAC, Silhouette, 3N38 and SWMP the dot tracks straight up and down. With HS-6 it wiggles side to side in a circle while moving up and down. It's disconcerting. Right now my go to powder is Major Pistol for anything major. It is very clean, meters like water, and doesn't fill the case so much that it spills when the shell plate indexes. A little does, but not enough to affect anything. MY SDs run around 4.9. I'm not as happy with it for minor loads, unless they are up around 150PF. Exactly what he said above~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted December 11, 2019 Share Posted December 11, 2019 Of all of the powders I have used, I prefer Silhouette. It boils down to case fill for easy loading, and the way it tracks and how clean it is. Are there better? Sure, but they tend to be more expensive and more difficult to load. I wont touch HS-6 or WAC anymore; too many destroyed pieces of brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
echotango Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, chevrofreak said: Of all of the powders I have used, I prefer Silhouette. It boils down to case fill for easy loading, and the way it tracks and how clean it is. Are there better? Sure, but they tend to be more expensive and more difficult to load. I wont touch HS-6 or WAC anymore; too many destroyed pieces of brass. Please describe the destroyed pieces of brass. I shoot 25k+ per year with WAC and have had zero issues. As do the majority of open shooters I shoot with. Edited December 12, 2019 by echotango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, echotango said: Please describe the destroyed pieces of brass. I shoot 25k+ per year with WAC and have had zero issues. As do the majority of open shooters I shoot with. Seems like this pops up every so often. All I use is WAC. No issues either. I'm running about 8 grains under 115's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 4 hours ago, echotango said: Please describe the destroyed pieces of brass. I shoot 25k+ per year with WAC and have had zero issues. As do the majority of open shooters I shoot with. Blown primers and loose primer pockets. Sometimes an expanded case head. A lot of people load WAC at 7.2gr for a 124, but I make major at 6.8, and at 7.0 I am blowing like 1 in 10 primers. At 7.2 I am blowing 90%+ HS-6 I am safe at 8.6gr for a 115, but at 8.8 and 9.0 it is similar to the WAC story. There just isn't enough margin for error in those powders for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiroshi Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I have tried many powders, for me my favorite has to be Vihtavuori 3N37 because this powder is the most accurate powder I ever used.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide4949 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 I use Vihtavuori 3n38 9.3 gr in my 38 sc open gun. I found this powder more accurate than I am. I think it's hard to beat but Silhouette would be my second choice , and it's a lot cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 My favorite powder for 9 major is VV 3N38, followed very closely by AA#7. I tried them all and those two were the softest and most accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted December 14, 2019 Author Share Posted December 14, 2019 I just ordered a 1lbs of each of WAC & AA#7 to try out will post results after testing is completed~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach1soldier Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Try shooters world major pistol. Similar to aa7 but cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprig Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/11/2019 at 9:54 PM, chevrofreak said: Blown primers and loose primer pockets. Sometimes an expanded case head. A lot of people load WAC at 7.2gr for a 124, but I make major at 6.8, and at 7.0 I am blowing like 1 in 10 primers. At 7.2 I am blowing 90%+ HS-6 I am safe at 8.6gr for a 115, but at 8.8 and 9.0 it is similar to the WAC story. There just isn't enough margin for error in those powders for me. That's pretty crazy. Been loading at 7.2 or more for the last 75k rounds or so , no issues but am 1.175 . What is your OAL ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Sprig said: That's pretty crazy. Been loading at 7.2 or more for the last 75k rounds or so , no issues but am 1.175 . What is your OAL ? I have to run 1.155 with a PD JHP in my CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 16 hours ago, chevrofreak said: I have to run 1.155 with a PD JHP in my CK. I can't figure out how Silhouette, which is very slightly slower than WAC and much faster than HS-6, gives you no problems where the other two do. It doesn't make sense. You can have the throat reamed so you can load longer. It costs me $10 per barrel at a local smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevrofreak Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, zzt said: I can't figure out how Silhouette, which is very slightly slower than WAC and much faster than HS-6, gives you no problems where the other two do. It doesn't make sense. You can have the throat reamed so you can load longer. It costs me $10 per barrel at a local smith. I have even used Power Pistol to make major. I saw very slight flattening with an 8.8gr charge under a 115, but no blown primers. Some powders just seem to spike pressure less than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chgofirefighter Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 On 12/13/2019 at 10:00 PM, mach1soldier said: Try shooters world major pistol. Similar to aa7 but cleaner. Thanks, I will do that soon~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orangeman711 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6.9 grs WAC under 124 gr. MGJHP makes 171PF in my TruBor. Very clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QUATTROISKING Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This may be a dumb question but running through a top end svi major gun using wac 9mm i can use all range brass I pickup correct? Or do I need new brass to reload 9mm major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 hours ago, QUATTROISKING said: This may be a dumb question but running through a top end svi major gun using wac 9mm i can use all range brass I pickup correct? Or do I need new brass to reload 9mm major I have reloaded some of my 9MAJOR brass so many times I’ve lost count. Don’t EVER buy new 9mm brass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHI Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Going to through this out . Recently ran an experiment with 9 major. Loaded the same 10 cases 27 times with 7.3 gr winchester auto comp cci spm primers 124 Delta Precision HP at 15 loadings the rims began to get ruff at 20 loadings the first case split at the mouth 2 more split by 23 at 24 the first primmer issue showed up not loose but to tight could not insert a primer. stopped at 27 loadings a total of 7 cases failed for the above reasons. so my conclusion load till you loose the cases discard any thing that looks ruff Note most likely you'll lose the cases long before any issue shows up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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