bandw1dth Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 So I'm working my significant other up from shooting a .22 to 9mm. And to make the transition as smooth as possible I'm trying to get my P320 to be as smooth as possible for her. My go to low recoil load is a 147gr with some TG under it, mixed brass and cci 500 primers. I'm curious as to if a lighter bullet say 115gr with fast powder TG, N320 or win 231 would produce the least amount of recoil or should I just stay with my 147gr over TG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 same powder charge with a lighter bullet will have less felt recoil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPostman Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3.3 grains of titegroup behind a 115 gr 9mm or a 100 gr 380 bullet will be super soft shooting. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgj3 Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 You will be limited by getting so "soft" that the gun doesn't cycle reliably which is also not fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken6PPC Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 You may encounter accuracy issues with really light loads! I have loaded some super-soft shooting loads of 3.14 grains TG with 124 gr XTreme plated bullets. They shoot... decently. PF 106... I have also loaded some 147 coated over 3.2 gr of HP-38, and they tumbled on the way to the target! 3.4 gr of HP-38 with 147 coated shot OK, but not great. PF 129... No problems with cycling these in my CZ Shadow or Springfield RO. (Eight pound recoil spring in the RO, with square bottomed FPS...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerritm Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 3.1grs of Titegroup with a 147gr SNS or Blue bullet is our go to load for my sons STI, my Glock 34, & our PCC's. Soft, cycles well, and accurate. gerritm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 I've loaded 3 grains of Anything under a light (115 gr) bullet, and they are all soft. Of course, if you go too low, the gun won't function , but that just takes another 0.1 or 0.2 grains, and off you go. Actually, not anything, obviously, but WW231, Red Dot or any fast powder is fine. I got about a 110 PF - that is fun to shoot, and accurate to 10 yards, anyway, even in my 12 ounce KelTec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 band, you should try both. Not everyone agrees about 'felt recoil', especially in a light gun like the 320. Your SO may well prefer the lighter, faster bullet, because it does not rotate up under recoil as much as a slower, heavier bullet would. The sensation in the hand would be a sharper push. You can make mouse fart loads using slower powders than TG or 320. One of the women at my club shoot a 115gr over Unique. When I fire her load in her pistol, the gun does not move. You feel a little recoil in your hand, but there is almost nonexistent muzzle rise. Do a little experimenting and you'll come up with something she likes. Also, at the range, let here shoot other shooter's guns. She may decide she likes something other than your 320. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perttime Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Do you happen to have a gun that is a little heavier? That should absorb some recoil. A little recoil does not necessarily bother women. Sometimes we make too much of it. Has she already fired something that bounces a little more than a 22? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
191138sc Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 Work on your grip as you experiment with soft recoil loads. This will help allot in terms of accuracy and split times. Good luck and welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_O Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 For a P320 you may need lighter recoil spring for soft loads. Seen a normal 320 and an X5 failing to eject with 125ish PF loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Ok, I'm a bit confused. I swear that I have read on multiple other threads here, that if you use heavier bullets with faster powders (such as TG and N320), that it will REDUCE the felt recoil. And that lighter bullets with the same fast powder will INCREASE the felt recoil. Now, upon reading posts in this thread, people are mentioning the opposite. Sooooo, which is it? Light bullets with fast powders reduce the recoil or heavy bullets with fast powders reduce the recoil? Sorry, I'm not trying to be a smartarse, but I'm just trying to make sure I have it right because I have read it multiple times here and now this thread contradicts the others that I have read on here. (heavy bullet+fast powder=reduced felt recoil) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 4 hours ago, R1_Demon said: heavier bullets with faster powders will REDUCE felt recoil. And that lighter bullets with the same fast powder will INCREASE the felt recoil. You have read correctly - heavy bullet and fast powder = less perceived recoil AT THE SAME PF. Lighter bullet with the same fast powder - you got to pour in more powder - more recoil. If PF doesn't matter, you will get less recoil with lighter bullets .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrench459 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Get your sweetheart to shoot a .30-06 or 12g with 3inch shells. She might enjoy the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R1_Demon Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Hi-Power Jack said: You have read correctly - heavy bullet and fast powder = less perceived recoil AT THE SAME PF. Lighter bullet with the same fast powder - you got to pour in more powder - more recoil. If PF doesn't matter, you will get less recoil with lighter bullets .... Ahhhhhh...ok. I missed the “at the same PF” part. Now it makes sense. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3324temp Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 A 9mm single stack with 147’s or 160’s is the way to go. Stay away from the 115’s.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Right now I'm running 3.1g TG @ 1.155 with a Xtreme plated 147 making 132PF. Glock 34 It's powder puff soft, I am also running an 11lb un captured ismi spring and full length tungsten guide rod. Edited September 26, 2017 by jtrump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x45 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 160 gr bullets at around a 105 floor will be the softest. But keep in mind that recoil has to be managed whether it's from a 22LR or a 10mm. Technique over load. The right grip and stance are most important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 On 9/25/2017 at 8:43 PM, wrench459 said: Get your sweetheart to shoot a .30-06 or 12g with 3inch shells. She might enjoy the fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 23 hours ago, L3324temp said: 147’s or 160’s is the way to go. Stay away from the 115’s. My experience is the exact opposite - if PF doesn't matter, the lightest recoil will be from Very Light bullets and very low PF (110 or less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 9 hours ago, 9x45 said: 160 gr bullets at around a 105 floor will be the softest. Again, my experience is that a Very Light bullet at very Low Velocity is softer than a heavier bullet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandw1dth Posted September 27, 2017 Author Share Posted September 27, 2017 Get your sweetheart to shoot a .30-06 or 12g with 3inch shells. She might enjoy the fun![emoji23] I would never hear the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDescribe Posted September 27, 2017 Share Posted September 27, 2017 17 hours ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Again, my experience is that a Very Light bullet at very Low Velocity is softer than a heavier bullet Correct. WITH a power factor floor, you'll get softer recoil at a given power factor with a heavier bullet (not that that is worth pursuing to the degree to which many of us do), but when there's no power factor floor, you can achieve the softest loads with the lightest bullets you can get for your caliber, though you may need to re-spring the pistol to get it to function with the mousiest of mouse farts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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