Lubing pistol cases?

[KustomHolsters]

Do you lube your pistol cases? On my xl650 even when i spray my brass with oneshot lube it is very hard to size 9mm brass and makes for very inconsistent seating depths. Do you lube your pistol cases?

Thanks in advance

[Hi-Power Jack]

1. I spray brass with oneshot lube it is very hard to size 9mm brass

2. and makes inconsistent seating depths.

1. I use a Square Deal and it is not very hard to sized 9mm brass

even if I don't spray the brass first. When I spray the brass,it

is very easy to size the brass. Not sure why it would be tough

with a 650??

2. Not sure what sizing brass has to do with inconsistent OAL's?

What bullet are you loading? How much variation in OAL are

you experiencing?

[jcameron996]

I use carbide sizing dies and have never lubed a pistol case. I would suggest checking over your machine setup again. It should be difficult at all to size 9mm on a 650.

Edited December 14, 2014 by jcameron996

[KustomHolsters]

I guess its like it "sticks" going in and back out of the die.

[Mahlsan]

I tend to over clean/polish my brass to avoid this issue. Slick brass, heavily polished, works like butter in my SDB 99.99% of the time.

[Sandbagger123]

I have used both one shot and lanolin based lubes the lanolin ones seems to work quite a bit better. If your 9mm with one shit is still hard to size I think you are just not using enough.

[razorfish]

I lube my pistol brass. Obviously with carbide dies you don't have to, but the press runs smoother with lubed brass. A smoother running press yields more consistent ammo.

First thing I would do is size a small batch without lube. Next use your One Shot and run another batch. It should be easier. One Shot Case Lube is a very light die so you may want to try a Lanolin base lube. The advantage to One Shot is you really don't have to clean it off of your finished ammo.

Another thing it might is your particular batch of brass. When I'm loading 9mm I'll sometimes run into a particularly difficult batch of brass. Generally anything fired in a fully automatic firearm or a pistol with a large chamber can require a bit more pressure to size. Also, nickel plated brass requires a bit more effort.

Try only sizing all of your brass first and then run it through the press again to load it. If your OAL isn't fixed, it's not the sizing causing the variation in OAL.

[tcoz]

I very lightly lube every other pistol case. It runs smoother and is less wear and tear on the die.

[427Cobra]

Try the bag trick with one shot, I put 300 or so cases in a large zip lock, give the bag a 10 second squirt of one shot, seal it and roll the cases around and flip the bag for even coverage, this works great with 9mm 40sw 223 cases, never a issue

[Sarge]

, give the bag a 10 second squirt of one shot,

In my experience that's about 8 seconds too long! 10 seconds is a LOT of one shot!

[copecowboy22]

I use the bag method with Dillon lube. 2 squirts for about 250 pieces of 45. I don't clean it off afterward.

[L3324temp]

I don't. But 9mm is hard to size and I've considered doing it many times. 40,45 and 38 size like butter compared to 9.

[a matt]

I think dillon is the best but I ran out. Oh well one-shot but it's not even close to being as good as the dillon.

[Bob DuBois]

Don't care what the box the dies came in say. Lube cases makes the whole process easier on the brass, dies, press and the operator. Fan of using

Lee's U die in 40 S@W won't work right with out some lube.

[jmorris]

I loaded pistol rounds for decades without lube, you don't need it.

That said I have never loaded an unlubed pistol case since the day I first tried it.

Most that try lubing pistol cases once keep doing it.

[Blankenhole]

, give the bag a 10 second squirt of one shot,

In my experience that's about 8 seconds too long! 10 seconds is a LOT of one shot!

Agreed, I just give a few quick sprays, oneshot is some powerful stuff.

I always use lube even with carbide dies. After trying without then running with, I will never go back. It is so smooth.

Back to the issue at hand, make sure the die and machine setup is right and clean. A quick spray in a bag or even on a tray (very messy) will be more than enough and it should run great.

[DoBell]

Like others have said, I have carbide dies and didn't lube for quite a while, but now that I've tried One Shot, I'll never go without it again. The bag trick works great, the cases are easier to size, and I just tumble the rounds for a few minutes afterwards to remove the lube.

[Petrov]

For me using SDB pulling the case off the powder funnel/flaring die is much harder than sizing.

[BSeevers]

25 years of carbide dies and polished brass, tried one shot during a tendentious flare up and never went back. Its way easier.

I have a cardboard box and put cases in on their side, one light pass back and forth is all you need. It runs around the cases just fine

Edited December 17, 2014 by BSeevers

[DC730]

I use Dillion case lube. No reason not to it easily cut the force in half to resize brass. I tumble in corn cob after its loaded to remove the lube .

[heaman]

I don't typically lube my pistol brass but all this talk about it has me wanting to try some One Shot on my next batch.

[JAM]

I reload a lot of 9mm and once I started lubing with One Shot I'll not load with out lube again.

[gacker]

Lube 'em. In addition to making sizing easier, it cuts down on all the jerking and banging. Much smoother.

[hceuterpe]

If you try to make your own using isopropyl alcohol, make sure you go with 99%, not 91%. I figured 91% was high enough until I over-lubed a batch of brass, and it did decent job of tarnishing/rusting the brass with the added time it took to dry. Not horrible, but it seemed reminiscent of brass you find that's been sitting in the dirt for a bit, just not nearly as bad. I guess the cheaper stuff did technically have 9 times the water content

Edited December 25, 2014 by hceuterpe

[Hi-Power Jack]

I don't lube brass but this talk has me wanting to try some One Shot.

After you lube the brass, don't forget to let it dry before you

load any powder into a wet case.