prreed10 Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 I agree. Cutting down a barrel and threading was going to run around $100 shipped both ways for me, and that is not including chokes. For $70 more, I'd rather get a new 930 with a 28in barrel and buy a second 24" barrel. I'll keep the 28" for duck hunting and make this gun do double duty... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I believe Mr. Hill mentioned in another post that he estimates $1300... $900.00 to make a $400.00 shotgun competitive??????, say-it-aint-so Why is that worse than $1100 to make a $900 spaghetti gun competitive?????????? And the 930 SPX can be competitive out of the box at $550! Don't put words in my keyboard now. I never said it was worse. I think both cases are overpriced. I would like to see Mossberg market a 3-gun ready, non-pistol grip shotgun (like FN does) that needs nothing more than loading it up after removal from its box, for about $600.00 street price, and with out a horendous cantalivever mount . Then they would be on to something. Only time will tell. (slimming down the foregrip like a Benelli would be a nice touch also as the 2x4 feel is not my cup of tea. Why do all the American shoty manufacturers stick to a dated forearm design they have been making for 60 yrs or so. We are supposed to be innovators, lets innovate...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon9 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I believe Mr. Hill mentioned in another post that he estimates $1300... $900.00 to make a $400.00 shotgun competitive??????, say-it-aint-so Why is that worse than $1100 to make a $900 spaghetti gun competitive?????????? And the 930 SPX can be competitive out of the box at $550! Don't put words in my keyboard now. I never said it was worse. I think both cases are overpriced. I would like to see Mossberg market a 3-gun ready, non-pistol grip shotgun (like FN does) that needs nothing more than loading it up after removal from its box, for about $600.00 street price, and with out a horendous cantalivever mount . Then they would be on to something. Only time will tell. (slimming down the foregrip like a Benelli would be a nice touch also as the 2x4 feel is not my cup of tea. Why do all the American shoty manufacturers stick to a dated forearm design they have been making for 60 yrs or so. We are supposed to be innovators, lets innovate...). I sure wish that USA innovation would carry over into sub $1k out of the box 1911s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon9 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Oh, wait, it has!!!! That will be $2500, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I sure wish that USA innovation would carry over into sub $1k out of the box 1911s Would you take assembled and sold in America? STI Spartan is quite a pistol for $600. Dawsonized for $900 and $1200 (hard-chromed). I sure hope Mossburg gets it right, in accordance with Mark's comments above. Ready to roll out of the box in the $600 to $700 range would be phenominal! It would also be great timing with all of the new interest in 3-gun. I don't care how long the barrel is as long as it is between 22 and 24 inches and has screw-in chokes and a fiber optic front sight with no ports. Stock should not be pistol grip and a slim forearm as well. Heck, even get it close. I like my Remington and will probably stick with it, or hopefully Robbie is getting them working on something better, but Mossburg appears to have the desire the make it a decent 4 horse race and unseat the leader of the past 20 or so years...more power to them. If they make a good one, I'll buy it just to support them for supporting us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trail3 Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 Sorry MarkCo, but disagree about the pistol grip stock. If FN had one available for the SLP 2 months ago I would have the FN. I switched my 1100CM to the new style factory pistol grip last year and love it. If the damn thing would just run! LOL! It would be nice if Robbie could get some things done better at Remington. I do love my 1100CM when it runs without problems, but that is happening less and less. If Mossberg is smart they will offer both style stocks like they do now. Just waiting for Benny to let us know what he is doing to the 930. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 +1 on benny. as soon as you tell us what you have with the 930, i'm is for an open version. time to retire the 1100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted November 13, 2010 Share Posted November 13, 2010 I'll feel a lot better about all of this with Benny learns to spell Mossberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trail3 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I really don't care if Benny knows how to spell Mossberg, as long as he knows how to work on them. LOL! And I am sure he does! Just wish we could get some information on how is is coming along and what he is doing to the 930. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 All in due time..... Can't do much till you have the guns and stuff to work with. And....deer season is just started. When Benny fills the blank space on the wall and the hole in the freezer he will again be 100%...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlamoShooter Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 All in due time..... Can't do much till you have the guns and stuff to work with. And....deer season is just started. When Benny fills the blank space on the wall and the hole in the freezer he will again be 100%...... Are you going to run one Mr Merlin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 All in due time..... Can't do much till you have the guns and stuff to work with. And....deer season is just started. When Benny fills the blank space on the wall and the hole in the freezer he will again be 100%...... Are you going to run one Mr Merlin? I love my Benny Benelli...but... If it will RUN I will sure be trying it out. I do hate the thought of going back to a gas gun due to the much greater need for maintenance and cleaning. From what we are seeing the new design is simple and robust and seems to be much more tolerant of "deferred cleaning" than other models we have tried. So far they really look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon9 Posted November 14, 2010 Share Posted November 14, 2010 I sure wish that USA innovation would carry over into sub $1k out of the box 1911s Would you take assembled and sold in America? STI Spartan is quite a pistol for $600. Dawsonized for $900 and $1200 (hard-chromed). I sure hope Mossburg gets it right, in accordance with Mark's comments above. Ready to roll out of the box in the $600 to $700 range would be phenominal! It would also be great timing with all of the new interest in 3-gun. I don't care how long the barrel is as long as it is between 22 and 24 inches and has screw-in chokes and a fiber optic front sight with no ports. Stock should not be pistol grip and a slim forearm as well. Heck, even get it close. I like my Remington and will probably stick with it, or hopefully Robbie is getting them working on something better, but Mossburg appears to have the desire the make it a decent 4 horse race and unseat the leader of the past 20 or so years...more power to them. If they make a good one, I'll buy it just to support them for supporting us. The Spartan is a good deal and a good gun, but nobody is going to run it stock for long except for as a backup gun. Add a magwell, add grips of choice, take it to a 'smith.... All non-limited competition guns seem to end up costing a minimum of at least $1200+ when US ingenuity is said and done. You know exactly what I mean..... The Mossberg being (I hope) 100% American Made may cost more, well worth the $$$ to me. I agree with you on buying a Mossberg just to support potential future development and investment in the "proper" direction, unless Mossberg dilutes it and turns it into another "one size fits all" non-hunting category shotgun. If they don't committee it to crap and actually listen to Benny and Jerry, $600-$700 would be phenomenal, I don't really expect that price point to happen. I hope I am wrong. I pledge to buy at least one and will probably get two(one stock, one Benny), seems to be what I usually do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted November 15, 2010 Author Share Posted November 15, 2010 Mossberg will have a tactical gun next year based on what me & jerry recommends. It will be a full house gun even with lower receiver opened up for faster loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon9 Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Mossberg will have a tactical gun next year based on what me & jerry recommends. It will be a full house gun even with lower receiver opened up for faster loading. Awesome!!! I can't wait, thank you for the heads up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midget Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 FWIW, I shot the 930 w/ the 18.5" barrel and +4 mag this weekend at the Warsaw competition... It worked flawlessly! My only complaint is that I need more practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted November 15, 2010 Share Posted November 15, 2010 Mossberg will have a tactical gun next year based on what me & jerry recommends. It will be a full house gun even with lower receiver opened up for faster loading. Any idea on the price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted November 16, 2010 Author Share Posted November 16, 2010 Talking about a price around $750-850. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 I hope they are faster in bringing this to market than they are in shipping orders out. Told 7 to 10 days from the time the order was placed, hell it was 2 weeks just for them to ship the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunsen27 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Talking about a price around $750-850. That's an excellent price point for the MSRP! Looking forward to additinal info and this hopefully being available in 2011. Benny I hope Mossberg is forward thinking enough to anticipate a "high demand" for this product, builds up a decent level of stock before releasing it, and is able to resupply the market in a timely matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsydlooknin75 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 JUST recieved my 24 incher ......... it IS ported. This is the 24 inch turkey barrel. It looks as if you were to cut the ports out it would be back around 20 to 21 inches. I think I am going to possibly have someone tig weld the ports closed and leave it at 24 inches. I noticed that the spring in it is blue where my old barrel is a red, I dont know what the difference is but I am going to go shoot tomorrow and see what it does, hopefully it still cycles the cheap shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jar Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 Talking about a price around $750-850. That's a great price for a competition gun ready to rock. Any idea when they'll be available? I'm hoping to have one for the 2011 season. Not sure when my first SG/MG match will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckofagator Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 I'm assuming, if the manufacturer is still taking input and working thru a design, this is going to be well into next summer/fall before this is released. If someone was wanting to buy sooner, what's the best course of action. Maybe just a stock 930, and then send it off to have $200 worth of work done to it? Will a stock manufacturer model be worth the wait? I don't think I'm looking to buy next week, but I don't want to wait too much into next year, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Is there any difference in the size of the loading gate between a 930 an M-2. Does anyone have any pic. side by side that would be great. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Sierpina Posted November 18, 2010 Share Posted November 18, 2010 Is there any difference in the size of the loading gate between a 930 an M-2. Does anyone have any pic. side by side that would be great. thanks I don't know about length differences being significant. Both are 3" guns. One thing I noticed about the 930, I could not get my thumb caught in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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