Jon Merricks Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080825/ap_on_...si_hotel_arrest I've really never thought about it but how many of us carry our tools in a range bag or case when traveling in and out of hotels, airports, etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Can any one say OVER-REACTION Just imagine if you just slipped them into your belt and slung the rifles over your shoulder. Now that would make headlines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFlowers Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Serious Overreaction and I doubt the charges will stick. Carrying a rifle in a rifle case is going to be a hard sell as "Concealled" unless Colorado has some really tight laws. Personally, I think the guy needs to have a serious shark of lawyer to start slapping lawsuits around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoofy Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The city of Denver considers itself exempt from the state laws for some reason. Bad Situational Awareness for the hunter, bringing a rifle case into a hotel where everyone is on edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waynewal Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The city of Denver considers itself exempt from the state laws for some reason. Bad Situational Awareness for the hunter, bringing a rifle case into a hotel where everyone is on edge. Ditto on C& C of Denver. They need a very serious civil rights lawsuit and a large monetary award to wake them up. This could be it. If the jury selection is outside Dever, good chance of a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 The city of Denver considers itself exempt from the state laws for some reason. Bad Situational Awareness for the hunter, bringing a rifle case into a hotel where everyone is on edge. Ditto on C& C of Denver. They need a very serious civil rights lawsuit and a large monetary award to wake them up. This could be it. If the jury selection is outside Dever, good chance of a success. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay6 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080825/ap_on_...si_hotel_arrestI've really never thought about it but how many of us carry our tools in a range bag or case when traveling in and out of hotels, airports, etc..... That is crazy. When I travel to a match I would ALWAYS bring my guns into the room with me. Who wants to leave them in the car where they could be "unloaded" by a quick window smash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Boudrie Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I wouldn't be surprised if he was offered a deal - sign a document agreeing not to sue and you'll get your guns back and the charges dropped, or prepare for trial and you don't get anything back without a court order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 musta been a 3gun match around there somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 So if I read this correctly if he had a CCW permit he would have been ok? Or since he didnt have a CCW permit he should have had the guns out of the gun case? Crazy! BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Two thoughts: 1. Ridiculous arrest. Yet another example of firearms laws applied against people who have no evil intent - while prosecutors make plea deals with real criminals. 2. Get a concealed carry permit if you can. If you don't wish to carry for personal protection - that's your decision. However, I'm constantly amazed at the number of competitive shooters that live in states that issue permits, but don't have them. If you carry guns around without a permit, it's possible to run afoul of laws unintentionally. Having a GA permit - which is honored by CO - I would have still gathered attention, but would not have charges for unlawful concealed carry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el pres Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Your Papars sir, now !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) Sounds like someone was trying real hard to impress the DNC. I'd like to know if someone called it in or someone on Pelosi's staff saw potential front page coverage of their "girl". Bill edited to add: And how will this affect the bottom line of various Denver hotels when this information gets out just before hunting season. "If you are a hunter we recommend you stay elsewhere?" Edited August 25, 2008 by Flatland Shooter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 lol.. that's nuts! What more can be said.. it'll be interesting to see how this works out. Even in California, he wouldn't be arrested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080825/ap_on_...si_hotel_arrestI've really never thought about it but how many of us carry our tools in a range bag or case when traveling in and out of hotels, airports, etc..... Ive thought about it (more like worried) every time I check into a hotel. A couple of years ago while checking into a hotel in Kentucky for a three gun tournament there were two state troopers parked in front. I asked the clerk (with guncase in hand) if I should be worried about displaying my gun cases in the lobby, She chuckled and said "honey, no need to worry, your in Kentucky" I love kentucky. I think it was just very bad timing with the DNC starting and all for this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 I want to check in to that hotel with a violin in a rifle case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 My tripod case was an AR bag, long before I owned an AR.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sideshowbob Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Serious overreaction. Although the charges will be dropped, he still has to spend the night in jail. I wonder who called the police? How was he carrying his pistols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genghis Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Hunting must not be very popular in Colorado - or maybe it won't be if word of this gets around. Seriously - what do they expect a hunter to do to comply with the law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Ho Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 So if carrying in a case is carrying concealed, does that mean I can carry my AR in a case and just tote it around anywhere CO law says it's ok to carry concealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Let me preface this by saying that I believe the reaction of the authorities and the subsequent criminal charge was ridiculous, but it is our duty as responsible gun owners to know the gun laws of the jurisdiction we live in and those of areas we are traveling to. I hope that the guy is vindicated and files a lawsuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerba Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 ...but it is our duty as responsible gun owners to know the gun laws of the jurisdiction we live in and those of areas we are traveling to. ...does that mean I can carry my AR in a case and just tote it around anywhere CO law says it's ok to carry concealed? Well, as far as knowing the rules...I would have thought you could carry a rifle in a case anyway, with or without a permit. How else are you supposed to transport a rifle? Doesn't federal transport laws allow for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) Could have been me :/ A few weeks ago me and one of my friends were going to a 3gun match far away enough to force us to spend the night. We arrive at the hotel at around 9.30pm, get our room and keys and head back to the car to get our gear (2 cased rifles, 2 cased shotguns, 2 cased handguns and plenty of ammo, holsters and other equipment) When we get to the room I managed to slide the keycard into the door without putting all my stuff down, but I'm too overloaded to be able to open the door "normally" and pretty much kick it open. I got really surprised, but I'm sure the family and their two ~5y kids were even more surprised when they see us standing there in the door with all our stuff. The hotel had given us an already occupied room! Fortunately the guy was really cool about it and just asked us wtf we were doing in their room and if we were going hunting After another trip down to the reception and some apologies from the hotel staff we were able to get into our own room. Wise from the experience, we made sure our door was securely locked from the inside before we proceeded with our pre-match talk and last-minute checks... I can think of a few different bad ways this could have ended, but we were fortunately enough to get away with just a "funny" story... Edited August 25, 2008 by gose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmanCdp Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 (edited) I want to check in to that hotel with a violin in a rifle case. +1 to that.... and what if his rifle case[padded ?] had been with a key lock of some type... i think he has a case on this or we are all in trouble or need to just know the law..but he whatabout you guys from CO..what is the law on this ?? Edited August 25, 2008 by GmanCdp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EZ Bagger Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 If you have a gun in Denver you are subject to arrest. The law only comes into play at trial and they will have already taken your guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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