AzShooter Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I've had the best luck with Winchester Brass. I buy 1000 rounds of loaded ammo, shoot that up and then reload the brass. I never mix between two or more manufacturers. That may be your problem. At the light loads we use, the brass lasts a long time. Only brass I don't recommend is Starline. It always sticks in the cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 13 hours ago, AzShooter said: I never mix between two or more manufacturers. That may be your problem. At the light loads we use, the brass lasts a long time. Only brass I don't recommend is Starline. It always sticks in the cylinders. For revo reloads I agree 100%. Keep the brass the same to eliminate unnecessary variables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoatMumbler Posted March 2, 2020 Author Share Posted March 2, 2020 Mystery solved! It was my mistake at the reloading bench. My scale is small with a small display and I loaded GRAMS, not GRAINS. The rounds were too hot, expanded the case after the first shot and got stuck in the chamber. Fortunately not too hot for any damage. Embarrassing to admit but maybe someone can learn from my mistake. Lesson learned. These rounds will be used for plinking in my Canik. I shot about 60 rounds of it today so they didn't go to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 With the conversion, what was your load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Curious as well 1gram = 15.432grains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Works out to 3.1 x 15.432 = 47.8 grains. I don’t think you could put that much in a 9mm case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Time to pull a lot of bullets and not use them in your auto. Lucky you didn't blow up your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatJones Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Yeah, I wouldn't shoot those. You don't really want want to bulge a chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeyScuba Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Out of curiosity what is a max load for a 929? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4406pak Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 10 hours ago, revoman said: Works out to 3.1 x 15.432 = 47.8 grains. I don’t think you could put that much in a 9mm case. That DEFINITELY would've made major power factor. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 5 hours ago, MikeyScuba said: Out of curiosity what is a max load for a 929? 147 grain bullet VV N320 3.9 grains 978 fps according to their books. If he was using grams and was thinking .310 was 3.1 grains that put him at 4.9 grains. This would give him a compressed load. This is what he had to do as the formula I used early filled up the case and half my powder pan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSteel Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 47 minutes ago, revoman said: 147 grain bullet VV N320 3.9 grains 978 fps according to their books. If he was using grams and was thinking .310 was 3.1 grains that put him at 4.9 grains. This would give him a compressed load. This is what he had to do as the formula I used early filled up the case and half my powder pan. That would punch the hand pretty good.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoatMumbler Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 The case was pretty full. I'd say after seating the bullet it was packed. The rounds we're pretty damn snappy but not "Jump out of your hand" crazy. I now check and recheck and I also adjusted my lighting where I can see right down the filled brass before I seat a bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, TheGoatMumbler said: The case was pretty full. I'd say after seating the bullet it was packed. The rounds we're pretty damn snappy but not "Jump out of your hand" crazy. I now check and recheck and I also adjusted my lighting where I can see right down the filled brass before I seat a bullet. How were you reading your scale and where was the decimal point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyrrhic3gun Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Saw this happen to a shooting buddy. Desired load was 4.5 grains, he was loading .45 grams (6.9 grains). Luckily, it was a relatively slow burning powder. As it was, he was shooting a major load in his 9mm auto. No wonder we thought it sounded "hot". :^) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcp Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) On 2/25/2020 at 10:07 AM, jcc7x7 said: Win or speer brass No starline in a titanium cyl That's the first I've heard about no Starline brass in titanium cylinders. I'm wanting to get a S&W 929 but most of my brass is Starline. I've always had good results with Starline. Why is it sticking in titanium chambers? Edited March 7, 2020 by bcp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Not sure I heard all the info on here and then I called SL and spoke to them. SL told me not to use their brass in the TI cyl. Also know two guys I shoot ICORE with that didn't believe me and bought SL . New it seemed to function on the next reload after it had been fired it stuck in their cyl. They had it up for sale at the next match I was at and then agreed it stuck in the cyl while Win, Speer and Blazer all worked fine Take it for what it's worth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcp Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 If SL says not to use it in Ti then that's gospel as far as I'm concerned. I had never heard that before. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bcp Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Well there you go. Thanks. I've used Starline in so many pistols and revolvers with good success but haven't owned a 929 (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pskys2 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 My guess is the composition of the brass, it may be softer than other brands. Combined with the tapered case and the titanium of the cylinder create the issues. Maybe why they are cheaper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revoman Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 18 hours ago, bcp said: Well there you go. Thanks. I've used Starline in so many pistols and revolvers with good success but haven't owned a 929 (yet). Buy the new Ruger 8 shot 9mm and with the steel cylinder should not have a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 3 hours ago, revoman said: Buy the new Ruger 8 shot 9mm and with the steel cylinder should not have a problem. My 929 went down on me at a match today, again. Need to decide if I want to try and find someone to repair the crane or if I want to deal with the hassles of sending a competition modified gun in for repair. If the new Ruger triggers can be made even decent there is no way I would not take the new Ruger over the 929. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzShooter Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Call Smith & Wesson first and tell them you are a competitive shooter and a lot of work has been done to your gun. I've done it before and they will repair what's wrong and not take out all of my upgrades. It's worth asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcp Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, IHAVEGAS said: My 929 went down on me at a match today, again. Need to decide if I want to try and find someone to repair the crane or if I want to deal with the hassles of sending a competition modified gun in for repair. If the new Ruger triggers can be made even decent there is no way I would not take the new Ruger over the 929. Do you mind sharing more of what has happened? Sounds like something you've experienced before. I'm trying to decide on some 929's but don't have experience with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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