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  1. I've intentionally made up misses on a Virginia count stage. I've had to explain how to apply the penalties nearly every time. We only keep it around for classifiers. Do you really think the high hit factors would change if El Presidente was scored Comstock? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  2. I stand corrected. Troy replied at 10 pm on a Sunday. The STI Staccato has a metal frame and a plastic grip, satisfying the special requirements of Appendix D5. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  3. I know STI has made claims regarding the single stack grip being legal in singlestack division, but I've not seen anything from NROI. Until I do, there won't be any allowed at the match I'm responsible for.
  4. This whole conversation is getting ridiculous, I'm thinking I could be okay with Virginia count going away. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  5. Not a very well trained USPSA RO, we have different commands for revolvers as well. 8.3.7 reads "“If Clear, Hammer Down, Holster” (self-loaders) or “If Clear, Cylinder Closed, Holster” (revolvers) or “If Clear, Hammer Down, Flag” (PCC)..." Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  6. I'm not a fan of the Wolff power rib mainsprings. I just took them out of two customer guns this week and put a tuned factory mainspring them. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  7. Isn't 105 power factor for speedloader fed revos in IDPA? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  8. I've been told tightgroup makes the forcing cone a little warmer than other powders. Burns suck if you reload strong hand, I usually forget to tape my middle finger until stage 2. :/ Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  9. Was your 45 a wheel gun? The bottom feeders spread the powder out inside the case better cause of the way they chamber. Revos have the slow first round issue because we drop the gun down to load them. A powder that fills the case better can help.
  10. Are you running an old version of practiscore that's not updated with the current classifiers? Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  11. Are you looking at loads in the 38 +P section of the loading manual? You're going to want to load above the power factor floor to ensure steel goes down, I aim for 132-135. No help, but I shoot 4.6 of Unique behind a 158 grain coated lead round nose. I believe that's into the +P loads in the manual. A plated bullet needs more powder than lead. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  12. This is the point I was trying to make in post # 14. That said, I believe the correct call is 8 procedurals. It's one per shot after specified reload point. The penalties for violating the WSB only apply when no other penalty fits. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  13. No. 5.2.4 "During the course of fire, after the start signal, unless stipulated otherwise in the stage procedure, spare ammunition, magazines and/or speed loading devices shall be carried in retention devices attached to the competitor's belt and specifically designed for that purpose. Unless specifically prohibited in the Written Stage Briefing, a competitor may also carry additional magazines or speed loading devices in apparel pocket(s) and retrieve and use them, providing that the location of the apparel pocket does not violate the requirements of Appendix D, Item 12 (subject to the provisions of Rule" D8, item 12, specifically states, "Magazines must be carried on the belt or in apparel pockets. See rule 5.2.4. No restriction on location on the belt. No thigh rigs or tie down magazine holders." Carrying a magazine in other places is not allowed. D8 also says "No side-by-side magazine couplers allowed. End-to-end coupling/extension is allowed." It reads end to end coupling/extension, not end to end coupling or extension. There are mag extensions that use a second mag body, this is allowed. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  14. Doesn't always work that way. Classifier be damned, it's a stage at the match and I want the maximum stage points I can earn. We shot 03-11 last Sunday. After the first string I noticed a missing hole in the first target, I'd called a marginal hit. During the second string of fire I intentionally put an extra shot on the target. A -10 Mike became a -10 Extra Shot and a +5 Alpha. No I didn't level up, but given the miss I maximised the points I could earn at that time. You don't suppose all this is the reason that IPSC did away with Virginia count do you? Given that the high hit factors are likely to be shot clean with all alphas, is there a real reason we couldn't start moving in that direction and we add and subtract classifiers. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk
  15. Huh? You can put in two if you want, this isn't IDPA. Back on topic.. So if he'd shot the targets to side lock, reloaded and just shot everything again, how would you score it? 1 miss? If he just missed the target the first time around and shot 3 rounds at it after the reload how do you score it? 1 extra shot?
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