thebigbeardedchef Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 If I'm not ready to spend the extra 500 dollars on the shadow would the CZ-75 Sp-01 Tactical be a good starter gun for a newbie in production? Or am I overthinking this picking the pistol? It's about 150 less than the Grand Power X-Calibur and about 100 less than the Q5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Look at a base SP01 Shadow for $880 and shipping. Better sights, controls, has three mags add a couple of Springs. better value for initial outlay of cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tictacticaltimmy Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 (edited) Totally agree. By the time you add Dawson sights, Cajun SRS, and an extra mag, extended mag release, you are about $20 away from just getting the Shadow. The numbers are better still if you want extended safeties, care about having the shortest reset possible, or feel the Shadow hammer is "good enough" but the stock SP01 hammer is not. Also a Shadow is simpler than a regular CZ75 to work on whereas a decocker model is more complex. On the other hand, if the idea of manually dropping the hammer gives you the chills, the tactical could be a great competition platform. Edited February 21, 2018 by Tictacticaltimmy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronn Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 A stock SP-01 works great for production especially if you are starting out. Upgrade as you see the need or want. I did it and now shoot CO with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClangClang Posted February 22, 2018 Share Posted February 22, 2018 I shot my first 3 years of USPSA with a SP-01 Tactical. It took me to B-class performance without even doing much practice. Just a couple new springs, new sights, and new grips was all it took to get it perfectly set up with a 3.8 lbs SA. It certainly won't hold you back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I really liked my tactical. I got it from CGW. absolutely amazing gun. regrettably being a 1911 shooter (now CZ guy ) I kept on de-coking with my thumb while I was shooting a stage. sold it got a CZ custom shadow and never looked back. Absolutely love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueBulletBeaker Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 As I recall, before the Shadow 2 and Stock 2 craze started, the CZ SP-01 was the jam. Seemed like all of the prod folks were running them. With that in mind, I'd say it is still an awesome option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superfan Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 Springs and polishing go a long way. Won'tbe as nice as shadow, but will be a whole lot better than stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilrb Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I just had CGW go through my Tactical and is amazing the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Totally agreed. They do kick @$$ work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superfan Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 On 2/21/2018 at 8:37 AM, eerw said: Look at a base SP01 Shadow for $880 and shipping. Better sights, controls, has three mags add a couple of Springs. better value for initial outlay of cash. This is about the best deal going right now. It puts the shadow into reach for more folks than ever. Leaves room in budget for changes that better suit the individual. By the time you change out the stuff on a standard or tactical SP01, you will be darn close or over that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siemens2 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just bought a SP01 with safety. Doing over I would go with the Shadow at $880, but there were none locally and CZs are scarce in local shops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrondoShooter Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Depends. If you're handy with some tools and don't afraid of anything, you can get a stock SP01, and follow Atlas's trigger job guide. There's still the issues if you don't want to do that work, buy the new higher-quality parts that get you close to Shadow money, I'd really recommend just going with the Shadow and jamming with an awesome gun out of the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hump Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Here's my shadow target done by CZ Customs and my SP01 with CJW parts. I shoot them the same on the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Here you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDee Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I also started with an SP01 Tactical. After replacing the sights and having it tuned for a lighter, smoother trigger, it cost more than a stock shadow. I shot it for a couple years and then upgraded to a SP01 Shadow from CZC with short reset trigger. This trigger was smoother, lighter and shorter reset than my tuned decocker Tactical. IMO, buy once, cry once. A SP01 Shadow will be a great platform to grow with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koteris Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I would save up for the SP01 shadow. If I really needed it to be cheaper, I would probably skip the SP01 tactical model and get a used P09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 If you're just starting out a factory SP01 won't be your limiting factor for some time. If you are exploring other production options the Canik SFx (little less expensive than SP01) is almost identical to the Q5. There's a video in the 'Other..pistols' forum where a Q5 top end is assembled on a Canik lower (and vice versa) and both pistols (Q5 & SFx) function and fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebigbeardedchef Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Look at a base SP01 Shadow for $880 and shipping. Better sights, controls, has three mags add a couple of Springs. better value for initial outlay of cash.It’s between that gun and the dog p320x5 right now. I’m glad to know I can get the base shadow still. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen7942 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 As many have said - Save up and buy the Shadow - you won't regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superfan Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Save up and buy the Shadow2. They are going cheap right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 When my dad was a live he used to say "We are to poor yo by cheap things" Save for what you really want. Plus there are some grate deals in the classified section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollymon32 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, 1911vm said: When my dad was a live he used to say "We are to poor yo by cheap things" Save for what you really want. Plus there are some grate deals in the classified section. WTF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911vm Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) What are you confused about. He wants a custom shadow . But is settling for Tactical. You always end up spending more buying something that's cheaper because you'll do it twice or more. And WTF is not a really polite way to respond to a post never mind a quote of someone's father that past away. Makes you sound kind of --------(fill the blank ) Edited March 4, 2018 by 1911vm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisix Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I have been using two CGW SP-01 Tacticals for 4 years now and love them. My triggers are as smooth as any Shadow (of course they have around 25-30k rounds each). Couple of advantages to the Tacticals. Since it is a decocker you get to start with the hammer at half cocked. This reduces trigger travel by 30% and the weight by ~1lbs when compared to the hammer at fully decocked. My reset travel is around 3.5mm vs 1mm-3mm on a Shadow. I do have some take up due to the firing pin block. Can you tell the difference between a Shadow and SP-01 Tactical standing around dry firing the trigger, yes. Would you notice the same stuff after the beeper goes off. Probably not. I would recommend getting the Tactical now, replace the springs with the lighter ones and start shooting. Over time you add other components of the CGW Pro package as you can afford them plus CGW are more then willing to help you out as needed. Plus there are plenty of forums and video to help you tune the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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